Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby Luigi » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:44 pm

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Title 7: Agriculture
PART 205—NATIONAL ORGANIC PROGRAM
Subpart G—Administrative
§205.605 Nonagricultural (nonorganic) substances allowed as ingredients in or on processed products labeled as “organic” or “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)).”

The following nonagricultural substances may be used as ingredients in or on processed products labeled as “organic” or “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s))” only in accordance with any restrictions specified in this section.

(a) Nonsynthetics allowed:

Acids (Alginic; Citric—produced by microbial fermentation of carbohydrate substances; and Lactic).

Agar-agar.

Animal enzymes—(Rennet—animals derived; Catalase—bovine liver; Animal lipase; Pancreatin; Pepsin; and Trypsin).

Attapulgite—as a processing aid in the handling of plant and animal oils.

Bentonite.

Calcium carbonate.

Calcium chloride.

Calcium sulfate—mined.

Carrageenan.

Dairy cultures.

Diatomaceous earth—food filtering aid only.

Enzymes—must be derived from edible, nontoxic plants, nonpathogenic fungi, or nonpathogenic bacteria.

Flavors, nonsynthetic sources only and must not be produced using synthetic solvents and carrier systems or any artificial preservative.

Gellan gum (CAS # 71010-52-1)—high-acyl form only.

Glucono delta-lactone—production by the oxidation of D-glucose with bromine water is prohibited.

Kaolin.

L-Malic acid (CAS # 97-67-6).

Magnesium sulfate, nonsynthetic sources only.

Microorganisms—any food grade bacteria, fungi, and other microorganism.

Nitrogen—oil-free grades.

Oxygen—oil-free grades.

Perlite—for use only as a filter aid in food processing.

Potassium chloride.

Potassium iodide.

Sodium bicarbonate.

Sodium carbonate.

Tartaric acid—made from grape wine.

Waxes—nonsynthetic (Carnauba wax; and Wood resin).

Yeast—When used as food or a fermentation agent in products labeled as “organic,” yeast must be organic if its end use is for human consumption; nonorganic yeast may be used when organic yeast is not commercially available. Growth on petrochemical substrate and sulfite waste liquor is prohibited. For smoked yeast, nonsynthetic smoke flavoring process must be documented.

(b) Synthetics allowed:

Acidified sodium chlorite—Secondary direct antimicrobial food treatment and indirect food contact surface sanitizing. Acidified with citric acid only.

Activated charcoal (CAS #s 7440-44-0; 64365-11-3)—only from vegetative sources; for use only as a filtering aid.

Alginates.

Ammonium bicarbonate—for use only as a leavening agent.

Ammonium carbonate—for use only as a leavening agent.

Ascorbic acid.

Calcium citrate.

Calcium hydroxide.

Calcium phosphates (monobasic, dibasic, and tribasic).

Carbon dioxide.

Cellulose—for use in regenerative casings, as an anti-caking agent (non-chlorine bleached) and filtering aid.

Chlorine materials—disinfecting and sanitizing food contact surfaces, Except, That, residual chlorine levels in the water shall not exceed the maximum residual disinfectant limit under the Safe Drinking Water Act (Calcium hypochlorite; Chlorine dioxide; and Sodium hypochlorite).

Ethylene—allowed for postharvest ripening of tropical fruit and degreening of citrus.

Ferrous sulfate—for iron enrichment or fortification of foods when required by regulation or recommended (independent organization).

Glycerides (mono and di)—for use only in drum drying of food.

Glycerin—produced by hydrolysis of fats and oils.

Hydrogen peroxide.

Magnesium carbonate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.

Magnesium chloride—derived from sea water.

Magnesium stearate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specified ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.

Nutrient vitamins and minerals, in accordance with 21 CFR 104.20, Nutritional Quality Guidelines For Foods.

Ozone.

Peracetic acid/Peroxyacetic acid (CAS # 79-21-0)—for use in wash and/or rinse water according to FDA limitations. For use as a sanitizer on food contact surfaces.

Phosphoric acid—cleaning of food-contact surfaces and equipment only.

Potassium acid tartrate.

Potassium carbonate.

Potassium citrate.

Potassium hydroxide—prohibited for use in lye peeling of fruits and vegetables except when used for peeling peaches.

Potassium phosphate—for use only in agricultural products labeled “made with organic (specific ingredients or food group(s)),” prohibited in agricultural products labeled “organic”.

Silicon dioxide—Permitted as a defoamer. Allowed for other uses when organic rice hulls are not commercially available.

Sodium acid pyrophosphate (CAS # 7758-16-9)—for use only as a leavening agent.

Sodium citrate.

Sodium hydroxide—prohibited for use in lye peeling of fruits and vegetables.

Sodium phosphates—for use only in dairy foods.

Sulfur dioxide—for use only in wine labeled “made with organic grapes,” Provided, That, total sulfite concentration does not exceed 100 ppm.

Tocopherols—derived from vegetable oil when rosemary extracts are not a suitable alternative.

Xanthan gum.

(c)-(z) [Reserved]

[68 FR 61993, Oct. 31, 2003, as amended as 68 FR 62217, Nov. 3, 2003; 71 FR 53302, Sept. 11, 2006; 72 FR 58473, Oct. 16, 2007; 73 FR 59481, Oct. 9, 2008; 75 FR 77524, Dec. 13, 2010; 77 FR 8092, Feb. 14, 2012; 77 FR 33298, June 6, 2012; 77 FR 45907, Aug. 2, 2012; 78 FR 31821, May 28, 2013; 78 FR 61161, Oct. 3, 2013; 81 FR 51709, Aug. 3, 2016]
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby Username Taken » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:38 pm

You are, of course, correct. But the Koreans only asked for the fruit to washed in hot water. Can't be too difficult.
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby Mr Curious » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:13 am

can't be too difficult? It's Cambodia, geez. As to size of fruit, blemishes, etc. that's a non issue as it'll be diced in tiny cubes in many cases, repackaged with Thai pineapple and some sunflower or nuts and sold in the U.S. IF the leeches that control the country allowed real production, Cambodians MIGHT wash and process the stuff themselves and export in bulk.
Never happen. I'm reminded of a story a Texas rancher told me of finding bulls that went down and then were practically drained of blood by mosquitos. The mosquitos of Cambodia are doing such a fine job that eventually I suppose China might step in as the French did years ago.
btw, aresenic is organic too. Organic is a total bullshit label applied to sell to fools.
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby Anchor Moy » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:40 pm

Sorry I mentioned the word organic since it has nothing to do with this.
My question is why can nothing be done to make Cambodian mangoes fit for Korean consumption ? Cambodia is already selling mangoes to Thailand and Vietnam for processing and export worldwide, so the pesticide levels in the fruit itself must be within acceptable international norms. Mustn't they ??

I don't know anything about mango production, but I'm curious as to the true problem here. Is it the type of pesticides used, is it too much bother to organize a chain of production to clean them up, is it because the Cambodians are just waiting for someone else to step in with the money and the knowhow ? (Korea, China ?)
And what were S. Korea and Cambodia envisaging when they signed this trade agreement ? Surely, there was some sort of plan at the time about putting quality control in place ? I can believe that the Cambodians would sign up with eyes closed, but the Koreans not so much. Years later, and where's the plan ?
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby CEOCambodiaNews » Sat May 27, 2017 2:47 pm

It is agreed that there is much to be done to help Cambodia's mango growers to produce fruit of export quality.

Mango exporter fights for market share
-While Cambodian mango varieties such as Keo Romeat are well regarded in overseas markets, there are constraints which need to be addressed before large scale exports can be achieved, said the owner of the largest agro-industrial company in Cambodia yesterday.

Mong Reththy, owner and founder of the Mong Reththy Group Co. Ltd., told Khmer Times that the difficulties Cambodian mango exporters faced were the lack of cold storage and systematic packing facilities, and the absence of good internationally-recognised agricultural practices or GAP.

Mr Reththy said GAP acts as a new barrier for exports from developing countries, but he argued that this can be a catalyst for upgrading the country’s food supply system for export growth.

“Highly perishable fruits like mango must be handled with the greatest care during and after harvesting. Pre-harvest and post-harvest production factors affect the quality of mangoes that can be exported,” he added.
“During seasons of bumper crops, the grower is confronted with surpluses and low prices. And currently, we are facing that problem.”
Mr Reththy pointed out that local growers did not have facilities for post-harvest storage and because of that the fruits quickly deteriorated in quality...
http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/38691/ ... ket-share/
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby Luigi » Sat May 27, 2017 10:01 pm

''the absence of good internationally-recognised agricultural practices or GAP.

Don't you think if this problem was solved the other key issues would be resolved?
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby CEOCambodiaNews » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:51 pm

EU mango exports to double
Exports of fresh mangos to Europe will nearly double next year, but quality remains a concern among suppliers.

Mong Riththy Group, an agro-industrial business and the country’s mango exporter to the EU, has reached an agreement to export 500 tonnes for 2017-2018.
“Next year, they asked us to export more than 500 tonnes and we hope we can do it,” Mr Riththy said, citing concerns over quality, standards and food safety. “We have a lot of mangos but we need to improve our packaging and ensure quality is maintained after harvesting,” he said.

For 2016-2017, Cambodia exported 250 tonnes to the EU, the company said.
With a new agreement for 2017-2018, a factory for standard packaging of mangos will be built in Kampong Speu province, he said...
http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/39839/ ... to-double/
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby AlonzoPartriz » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:59 pm

CEOCambodiaNews wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:48 pm
A trade agreement signed last December to sell mangoes to South Korea has stalled, because Cambodia is not capable of cleaning the mangoes to Korean standards. This is pitiful. One year later, and they still haven't managed to set up a mango treatment plant, despite a lucrative market waiting with open arms. Too hard.

Mango producers struggle to meet Korean standards

Fri, 18 November 2016

It has been nearly a year since the government signed a memorandum of understanding with South Korea that aimed to put Cambodian mangoes on the shelves of supermarkets in Seoul, yet local producers say there is little sign of any movement.

According to In Chayvan, president of the Kampong Speu Mango Association, the potentially lucrative trade agreement signed last December has stalled on South Korea’s stringent sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) regulations, which local producers are unable to comply with.

“Firstly, we are farmers, so we were happy to hear that the government had inked this agreement, but when we later found out about South Korea’s requirements, we lost hope,” he said yesterday.

“South Korea is focused on food safety, which is the main barrier for us as we cannot afford the technology required to kill all the bacteria on our mangoes,” he explained.

According to Chayvan, Cambodia’s top-tiered keo romeat mangoes currently fetch between 1,000 and 2,000 riel per kilo here, but could sell for considerably more if shipped to South Korea. Yet it could be several years before Cambodia has a processing plant that can treat the mangoes with heated water, bringing bacteria counts to within acceptable levels.

Chayvan said Cambodian mango growers would be better off focusing their efforts on securing export contracts for China, and upping shipments to the Thai and Vietnamese markets. He said these countries have less stringent SPS regulations, while Thailand and Vietnam are ready to bend the rules on SPS and certificates of origin when their domestic production is insufficient to meet demand.

[Mong Reththy, chairman of the agro-industrial conglomerate Mong Reththy Group,] said, the Koreans take food safety very seriously and this has proven a stumbling block...
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/business/m ... -standards
Is that Mong Rithy of the Royal group?
If it is, I think it's disgusting he never set up a sterilization plant in over 6 years​. With all the money that man has made from Cambodia. A good indication of why Cambodia is being held down, not by the Vietnamese, but by its own people.
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby AlonzoPartriz » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:15 pm

CEOCambodiaNews wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:51 pm
EU mango exports to double
Exports of fresh mangos to Europe will nearly double next year, but quality remains a concern among suppliers.

Mong Riththy Group, an agro-industrial business and the country’s mango exporter to the EU, has reached an agreement to export 500 tonnes for 2017-2018.
“Next year, they asked us to export more than 500 tonnes and we hope we can do it,” Mr Riththy said, citing concerns over quality, standards and food safety. “We have a lot of mangos but we need to improve our packaging and ensure quality is maintained after harvesting,” he said.

For 2016-2017, Cambodia exported 250 tonnes to the EU, the company said.
With a new agreement for 2017-2018, a factory for standard packaging of mangos will be built in Kampong Speu province, he said...
http://www.khmertimeskh.com/news/39839/ ... to-double/
:facepalm: There he goes again. Sorry mate, but after your last announcement in 2013 that a sterilization plant will be built, I don't believe a word you say.
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Re: Big demand for Keo Romeat mangoes by Thai fruit processors.

Postby cambo swa » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:21 am

Being held down by inability to even understand the basics of international trade and export requirements. Just plain ignorance of the facts (maybe not stupidity, ignorance made worse by laziness). Here you have the "President" of the Kampong Speu mango growers association stating that the impediment to exporting mango to Korea is the lack of facilities/equipment to kill bacteria on the fruit. No, the requirement to export mango to Korea or in the future any other country is the ability to provide the vapor heat treatment (hot water) process to assure there are no insect pests being exported with the fruit, to include the mango seed weevil and fruit flies. It has nothing to do with bacteria. So, they will continue to sell their mangos here for 1000 riel/kg while Koreans and Japanese are paying $7-$9 USD each. What can be done?



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