April 17 1975 - a dark day to remember

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Re: April 17 1975 - a dark day to remember

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John Bingham wrote:It's got nothing to do with leftism or rightism. What have you got to say about the massacres of ethnic Vietnamese in 1970? Was that another leftist plot?
From what I read, in the late 60s Lon Nol's army was a copy of the South Vietnamese one. The KR was obviously like the VC. One had the trappings of a real army, the other was pure insurgency.
Obviously? Because they wore similar uniforms? Pure BS conjecture.
At some point around 1971-73, Lon Nol would have realized that the US was on the way out and the KR, who were at that stage supported by the VC and NVA, were going to be in a significantly better position, so the generals must have presumed that shifting to more insurgent-styled tactics would be better. Loses on the battlefield and the knowledge that they were all dead once the KR took control would have created incredible brutality
The PAVN withdrew most of their troops from Cambodia in 1973, and were in conflict with the KR afterwards. Your nonsense about the generals switching to insurgency-styled tactics is more pure fantasy.
Please, the rift between the KR and the Viets only came to a head with the cross border incursions after Saigon fell in 1975. Yes, they were getting frostier before, but the NVA was permissive towards them until Phnom Penh fell and were fully supportive of them before about 1972.

You haven't responded to my rebuttal of your outlandish claims about Samlaut that come from a few biased foreign viewers in the heat of the 70s, so I'll take that as admitting they were bending the truth.
What have you got to say about the massacres of ethnic Vietnamese in 1970?
The KR did exactly the same into the mid 90s. Cambodia will always have issues with its Eastern neighbor and acting like Lon Nol was uniquely bad is intellectually dishonest.
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ot mien kampf wrote: You haven't responded to my rebuttal of your outlandish claims about Samlaut that come from a few biased foreign viewers in the heat of the 70s, so I'll take that as admitting they were bending the truth.
I haven't verified that yet, your link to one book on Amazon wasn't very helpful. The fact that the author, Ben Kiernan, was one of those foreign-based leftists who originally sympathized with the Khmer Rouge doesn't help your case. Here's a quote from Kiernan which directly contradicts the 100 figure:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=x06 ... on&f=false

Please, the rift between the KR and the Viets only came to a head with the cross border incursions after Saigon fell in 1975. Yes, they were getting frostier before, but the NVA was permissive towards them until Phnom Penh fell and were fully supportive of them before about 1972.
So, considering they didn't support them till after the coup, that would make it about 2 years full support?

At some point around 1971-73, Lon Nol would have realized that the US was on the way out and the KR, who were at that stage supported by the VC and NVA, were going to be in a significantly better position, so the generals must have presumed that shifting to more insurgent-styled tactics would be better. Loses on the battlefield and the knowledge that they were all dead once the KR took control would have created incredible brutality
You still haven't admitted making that all up. "Insurgent-styled tactics." BS.
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