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Wait until you get married,then you'll want the loudest, most obnoxious wall of speakers to piss off the neighboursin revenge for all their bloody rackets over the years.
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Here is an excerpt from something I wrote a few years back about Cambodian funeral practices, with some thoughts about the amplified music, shortly after the death of a friend.
...9:05 PM - Back at our place. The amplified chanting of the monks from Mrs. Bopha's house wafts across the town. Here, a half mile away, the sound of the monks and funeral music rises and falls on the wind, from nearly inaudible to jarringly loud.
Foreigners, including myself, often complain of the seemingly over-amplified music that accompanies Khmer funerals and weddings. I think this time, for the first time, I got a little hit of the cultural logic behind it. The whole town is, in some sense, part of the funeral. We, her friends and those who knew her, though not at her funeral at this moment, are still participating. We know what's happening at her house right now. The sad and nagging question, "I wonder how the family is doing?" has at least some answer so long we hear the monks and music. They're receiving guests, burning ghost money, praying, talking about her, serving food... No matter how far away her friends in this town, we all derive the benefit, the comfort of continued inclusion.
The amplified music would seem a tradition of a smaller community, a village tradition in which every funeral and every wedding was an event that affected the entire community. In larger, more disconnected communities where the death or wedding of some stranger has no direct impact on us, it seems an intrusion rather than inclusion. I have felt so in the past. But tonight, it's consoling...
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So the shutting of Martini's and the absence of such ceremonies anywhere HE's residence are also 'political'?
They don't like excessive noise, neither do most Khmers.
They don't like excessive noise, neither do most Khmers.
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i think thats a valid observation, ive read some similar statements from many of the khmers posting about it on facebookLTO wrote:Here is an excerpt from something I wrote a few years back about Cambodian funeral practices, with some thoughts about the amplified music, shortly after the death of a friend.
...9:05 PM - Back at our place. The amplified chanting of the monks from Mrs. Bopha's house wafts across the town. Here, a half mile away, the sound of the monks and funeral music rises and falls on the wind, from nearly inaudible to jarringly loud.
Foreigners, including myself, often complain of the seemingly over-amplified music that accompanies Khmer funerals and weddings. I think this time, for the first time, I got a little hit of the cultural logic behind it. The whole town is, in some sense, part of the funeral. We, her friends and those who knew her, though not at her funeral at this moment, are still participating. We know what's happening at her house right now. The sad and nagging question, "I wonder how the family is doing?" has at least some answer so long we hear the monks and music. They're receiving guests, burning ghost money, praying, talking about her, serving food... No matter how far away her friends in this town, we all derive the benefit, the comfort of continued inclusion.
The amplified music would seem a tradition of a smaller community, a village tradition in which every funeral and every wedding was an event that affected the entire community. In larger, more disconnected communities where the death or wedding of some stranger has no direct impact on us, it seems an intrusion rather than inclusion. I have felt so in the past. But tonight, it's consoling...
http://ltocambodia.blogspot.com/2011/03 ... riend.html
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There are no residences around the PM's house. It's bordered by an embassy, an EU mission, a monument and a pagoda across the street. But I noticed at the funeral of the PM's fathe at his house, that they played music at volume, per tradition.vladimir wrote:So the shutting of Martini's and the absence of such ceremonies anywhere HE's residence are also 'political'?
They don't like excessive noise, neither do most Khmers.
That one of Martinis incarnations was forced to move because of noise (whereas weddings and funerals aren't) shows, in part, that some foreigners, like the owner of Martinis, are often unable to tell the difference between what counts as acceptable and unacceptable noise in Cambodia.
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Can they at least find a non-retard to control the distortion, and pay for a decent (above $10 plus) sound system?
LTO: keep dancing, you're good at that. Walls shaking: acceptable? Wait, tell us. We need your enlightenment a la alleged junkie-style.
Acceptable noise limits: hey, Brit Embassy/ French Embassy/Russian/Chinese Embassy etc have any weddings lately? Nah, didn't think so.
I wonder why.
LTO: keep dancing, you're good at that. Walls shaking: acceptable? Wait, tell us. We need your enlightenment a la alleged junkie-style.
Acceptable noise limits: hey, Brit Embassy/ French Embassy/Russian/Chinese Embassy etc have any weddings lately? Nah, didn't think so.
I wonder why.
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I hardly think that angry rants by foreigners on barely noticed internet forums are likely to change the status quo any time soon.
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It is what it is - Cambodia.vladimir wrote:LTO: keep dancing, you're good at that. Walls shaking: acceptable? Wait, tell us. We need your enlightenment a la alleged junkie-style.
In so far as that is true, it is because of the way they choose their location.vladimir wrote:Acceptable noise limits: hey, Brit Embassy/ French Embassy/Russian/Chinese Embassy etc have any weddings lately? Nah, didn't think so.
I wonder why.
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And WHY did they choose noise-free locations?
I mean, NO ONE was smart enough to request a quiet location, right?
Wait..let me guess..to avoid people from busy areas claiming they had been robbed of their passports and cash, right?
I mean, NO ONE was smart enough to request a quiet location, right?
Wait..let me guess..to avoid people from busy areas claiming they had been robbed of their passports and cash, right?
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EXACTLY.Red Ops wrote:I hardly think that angry rants by foreigners on barely noticed internet forums are likely to change the status quo any time soon.
But let's not listen to clowns who suggest any location by those in power/ with cash away from noisy areas is 'accidental' and ' coincidence'.
It is pure arrogance to assume Khmers don't have the same intelligence when selecting a residence as westerners.
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