Young American girl was raped by old local man in Siem Reap
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Re: Young American girl was raped by old local man in Siem R
From the Cambodia Daily, which also says the old Cambodian man claims she was hugging and kissing him before they did the deed:
A 52-year-old Cambodian man has been arrested over the suspected rape of an American woman in Siem Reap City in the early hours of January 1 after she was locked out of her guesthouse upon returning from New Year’s celebrations, police said Friday.
According to Duong Sokha, provincial penal police chief, the 21-year-old woman tried to climb over a locked gate at about 1 a.m. but was unsuccessful.
The suspect, Chea Savan, saw her struggling and tried to assist before taking the intoxicated woman to his home opposite the guesthouse.
“The victim was drunk and the suspect held her in his house, where he raped her once,” Mr. Sokha said, adding that the woman filed a complaint with police after waking up in the stranger’s home.
According to Mr. Sokha, Chea Savan admitted during questioning to having sex with the woman, but claimed she had hugged and kissed him beforehand.
Provincial immigration police chief Chao Mao Vireak said the suspect has been sent to provincial court for questioning but has not yet been charged as officials were still trying to establish whether the rape was premeditated.
A 52-year-old Cambodian man has been arrested over the suspected rape of an American woman in Siem Reap City in the early hours of January 1 after she was locked out of her guesthouse upon returning from New Year’s celebrations, police said Friday.
According to Duong Sokha, provincial penal police chief, the 21-year-old woman tried to climb over a locked gate at about 1 a.m. but was unsuccessful.
The suspect, Chea Savan, saw her struggling and tried to assist before taking the intoxicated woman to his home opposite the guesthouse.
“The victim was drunk and the suspect held her in his house, where he raped her once,” Mr. Sokha said, adding that the woman filed a complaint with police after waking up in the stranger’s home.
According to Mr. Sokha, Chea Savan admitted during questioning to having sex with the woman, but claimed she had hugged and kissed him beforehand.
Provincial immigration police chief Chao Mao Vireak said the suspect has been sent to provincial court for questioning but has not yet been charged as officials were still trying to establish whether the rape was premeditated.
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Re: Young American girl was raped by old local man in Siem R
No, Johnny, I don't see that info anywhere.johnnyj wrote:Anyone know what guesthouse she wan staying at?
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You're missing the point.Soi Dog wrote:How? In your perception maybe but surely not legally. I can't imagine a court anywhere, including Cambodia, to accept "I was drunk" as any special circumstance to even consider in deliberation and sentencing, and especially in a rape case.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote:Was he also drunk? This also affects the case I'd say.
"I was going to give you 20 years for rape, but since you were drunk, I hereby sentence you to 10 years"?
Exhibit A: a girl shows up at my door totally wasted and almost passes out on me. I'm fully sober and in possession of all my faculties. I see that she's obviously severely drunk, but I then start using her as a human fleshlight.
Exhibit B: I'm completely drunk and an equally drunk girl stumbles towards me and starts groping me. After some fondling we end up having sex. How am I in a position to know whether or not it was appropriate to have sex with her at that particular time?
A=Obvious rape. You're taking advantage of someone who obviously couldn't make very good decisions at the time.
B=Both parties are drunk as hell. Both share a certain level of responsibility for the sexual encounter, which wasn't forced by anyone.
I'm not saying that being drunk is an excuse to get softer sentences. I'm saying that in this particular case, given that the female was very drunk, if the male was also drunk then it's hard to blame him for having sex with her, especially if it's true that she started getting flirtatious and "friendly" with him. And once he moved forward she didn't resist in any way. But yeah, I'm no lawyer, but I can imagine a jury giving a leaner sentence to someone in that position. The reporting is weird, but it's not impossible that the girl actually told the police that she thought he was her boyfriend. Then how the hell can you blame the old dude for getting it on with her, given that she was (allegedly) actively participating? Anyways, a lot needs to be cleared up as so far the info is a bit sketchy.
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Re: Young American girl was raped by old local man in Siem R
General Mackevili wrote:No, Johnny, I don't see that info anywhere.johnnyj wrote:Anyone know what guesthouse she wan staying at?
IMO, this woman must be beyond embarrassed - I think that if she'd remembered that she had been kissing this old boy, she never would have gone to the police. Now the whole of Cambodia knows that she was so out've it that she f'ked a stranger without realising what she was doing - resulting in a walk of shame in the expat media.
A Very Bad Trip indeed.
(Up to you, mods, but maybe you don't need to post her name, address and passport n°, even if it's published ? She must really feel like a ton of shit. )
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Maybe not rape, but certainly a lot of coercion was going on. She's cornered in a room with a bunch of dudes. If you keep saying please over and over to someone who keeps saying no, and you keep it up until they eventually say yes... Then I think you'd have a case in saying that the person made the decision under duress. They still should have just stood their ground, but I think morally the guys should have known better. But then again, I don't know the case and maybe they asked her like 3 times before she accepted and started smoking their poles and begged them to DP her.nightmare.believer wrote:There was a "rape" at my university when I was going there. A girl was a booty call of a guy on the football team. He called her up late one night and she went over to his dorm. There were 4 or 5 other players there. They asked her for sex. She said no. They said please please please. She finally said ok and did them all. Later she claimed rape. At no time did they hold her or bar her from leaving the room. They just said please until she acquiesced. That's not rape. That's slutty behavior.
Again, I'm no lawyer and nothing I say is meant to have any weight legally. Just philosophically-speaking.
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Agreed. I don't think we need to identify her on here.Digg3r wrote:It's in bad taste to identify her especially if it does turn out that she was raped.Anchor Moy wrote:General Mackevili wrote:No, Johnny, I don't see that info anywhere.johnnyj wrote:Anyone know what guesthouse she wan staying at?
IMO, this woman must be beyond embarrassed - I think that if she'd remembered that she had been kissing this old boy, she never would have gone to the police. Now the whole of Cambodia knows that she was so out've it that she f'ked a stranger without realising what she was doing - resulting in a walk of shame in the expat media.
A Very Bad Trip indeed.
(Up to you, mods, but maybe you don't need to post her name, address and passport n°, even if it's published ? She must really feel like a ton of shit. )
However, I see no problem with naming the guesthouse this took place across from.
I was surprised to see that the Cambodian press was nice enough to blur her face.
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Re: Young American girl was raped by old local man in Siem R
I also found that really surprising. Shows a refreshing bit of tact for once. I believe I've seen them to that before for Khmer rape victims.
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Yeah, at least for underage rape victims.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote:I also found that really surprising. Shows a refreshing bit of tact for once. I believe I've seen them to that before for Khmer rape victims.
Seems hit or miss with what they show.
It also doesn't show at what stage the image was blurred, so also possible they got it like that. Who knows.
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Re: Young American girl was raped by old local man in Siem R
Blackout.That sucks, but her boyfriend resembles a 57 year old local guy ?
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