Woman finds "treasure", and then what happens ?

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John Bingham wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:17 pm
cptrelentless wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:12 pm Surely a foreign collector would offer the best deal. If the government takes it you can guarantee it'll either be someone's paperweight or in a truck to the border.
I think you'll find you are wrong when it comes to well-publicized finds like this. The only reason I can figure that they haven't seized it already is that she might be rather powerful in her area. As far as I know all ancient artifacts are property of the state and cannot be traded.
I'm not sure if that counts in a popular news report such as this. I think the authorities made that statement because they knew what most Cambodians felt about finding stuff on their land. I expect they'll offer her a few hundred bucks for it after ear drum popping negotiations with all the pajama wearing, overweight 40 - 50 yo women in the village. I sure wouldn't like to be those officials.
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Luigi wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:01 am
John Bingham wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:17 pm
cptrelentless wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:12 pm Surely a foreign collector would offer the best deal. If the government takes it you can guarantee it'll either be someone's paperweight or in a truck to the border.
I think you'll find you are wrong when it comes to well-publicized finds like this. The only reason I can figure that they haven't seized it already is that she might be rather powerful in her area. As far as I know all ancient artifacts are property of the state and cannot be traded.
That was my premise but damned if I can find supporting evidence. i. e. A translated praka, past case.
What is your assumption based on JB?
The status quo I expect. :stir:
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Luigi wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:01 am
John Bingham wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:17 pm
cptrelentless wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:12 pm Surely a foreign collector would offer the best deal. If the government takes it you can guarantee it'll either be someone's paperweight or in a truck to the border.
I think you'll find you are wrong when it comes to well-publicized finds like this. The only reason I can figure that they haven't seized it already is that she might be rather powerful in her area. As far as I know all ancient artifacts are property of the state and cannot be traded.
That was my premise but damned if I can find supporting evidence. i. e. A translated praka, past case.
What is your assumption based on JB?
On multiple reports over the years of statues being discovered locally or recovered from abroad.
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I understand & agree with you. Especially looted antiquities. A few now being returned fom various museums from across the globe. Still I wonder if it is just the status quo as Alonzo mentions or a law.
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All the Khmer language articles (2) I've read about this report that the landowner found the statue after seeing a spirit in her dreams two nights in a row pleading for help.
The woman landowner then woke in the morning after the second dream and found the statue poking out of a pile of mud and rescued it.
Locals therefore considered this to be quite miraculous and started to come and offer incense.
Authorities therefore have let her temporarily keep the statue so that people can make a pilgrimage.
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Fuk I'm laughing. Not at your response but that makes sense in Cambodian way. Still laughing.
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John Bingham wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:41 am
Luigi wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:01 am
John Bingham wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:17 pm
cptrelentless wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:12 pm Surely a foreign collector would offer the best deal. If the government takes it you can guarantee it'll either be someone's paperweight or in a truck to the border.
I think you'll find you are wrong when it comes to well-publicized finds like this. The only reason I can figure that they haven't seized it already is that she might be rather powerful in her area. As far as I know all ancient artifacts are property of the state and cannot be traded.
That was my premise but damned if I can find supporting evidence. i. e. A translated praka, past case.
What is your assumption based on JB?
On multiple reports over the years of statues being discovered locally or recovered from abroad.
Fair enough, I believe you. Thanks for the neg Karma :thumb:
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Luigi wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:56 pm I understand & agree with you. Especially looted antiquities. A few now being returned fom various museums from across the globe. Still I wonder if it is just the status quo as Alonzo mentions or a law.
BTW way I'm actually JSP. I had to make a new account as the mods murdered me on the quiet then pretended they knew nothing about it. Something to do with having too much Karma. Just wanted to let everyone know, so that I'm not misleading you. Did anybody guess? I know UT did. I'll probably get murdered again now. :D
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Rama wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:13 pm All the Khmer language articles (2) I've read about this report that the landowner found the statue after seeing a spirit in her dreams two nights in a row pleading for help.
The woman landowner then woke in the morning after the second dream and found the statue poking out of a pile of mud and rescued it.
Locals therefore considered this to be quite miraculous and started to come and offer incense.
Authorities therefore have let her temporarily keep the statue so that people can make a pilgrimage.
http://bit.ly/2udbCmH
Lol. Perhaps the dreams also said the statue would get her house built for her. The pilgrims will probably offer money as well as incense. Then the authorities will make up the rest and take the statue for safe-keeping. Fair enough. It's the Cambodian way.
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Anchor Moy wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:54 pm
Rama wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:13 pm All the Khmer language articles (2) I've read about this report that the landowner found the statue after seeing a spirit in her dreams two nights in a row pleading for help.
The woman landowner then woke in the morning after the second dream and found the statue poking out of a pile of mud and rescued it.
Locals therefore considered this to be quite miraculous and started to come and offer incense.
Authorities therefore have let her temporarily keep the statue so that people can make a pilgrimage.
http://bit.ly/2udbCmH
Lol. Perhaps the dreams also said the statue would get her house built for her. The pilgrims will probably offer money as well as incense. Then the authorities will make up the rest and take the statue for safe-keeping. Fair enough. It's the Cambodian way.
I agree, she will likely do quite well out of it. I wonder who made up the dream story for her? Or maybe it's true :shock:
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