Violence in Sihanoukville

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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by flying chicken » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:08 pm

I think it is called Fortune or Fortuna or something like that...cant remember.
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by flying chicken » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:18 pm

My point is Dragon, when Casinos were operating in Siem Reap back in the 2007-08 the numbers of unreported crimes were sky rocketed. After it became illigalized Siem Reap became the most safest city in Cambodia.
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by OrangeDragon » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:21 pm

flying chicken wrote:I think it is called Fortune or Fortuna or something like that...cant remember.
I have, often. Several Vietnamese/Korean/Chinese, some Barangs, and 1 or 2 wealthy Khmer who arrived in lexus/range rovers and aren't going to be bag snatchers if they lose their cash (though mostly the place was pretty dead).

My experience: I had 2 Khmer I was hanging out with specifically ask me to take them inside because they wanted to play, in exchange they bought me drinks to stay and hang out since I didn't want to play.

My point Chicken is that Sihanoukville is not Siem Reap, and they if you take half a look at these guys and gals you'll see it's the glass pipe making them crazy... not the slot machines.
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by flying chicken » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:31 pm

We were probably there at a different time. I was referring to my 2 times visit. Those VN that you saw, esp on the bacarrat tables; arent Vietnamese-vietnamese. The high rollers foreigners are a bit further at the above step. Their Khmers speaking skills sitting at the table entrance is easy to distinguish. I saw a few wealthy Khmers too, they allowed to get because it is what the Casino needs. These groups that I saw seem to be frequent gamblers, throwing 100 dollars chip on the table like it is nothing. What method do you think they resort to get more money for their gambling addiction?
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by OrangeDragon » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:22 pm

flying chicken wrote:We were probably there at a different time. I was referring to my 2 times visit. Those VN that you saw, esp on the bacarrat tables; arent Vietnamese-vietnamese. The high rollers foreigners are a bit further at the above step. Their Khmers speaking skills sitting at the table entrance is easy to distinguish. I saw a few wealthy Khmers too, they allowed to get because it is what the Casino needs. These groups that I saw seem to be frequent gamblers, throwing 100 dollars chip on the table like it is nothing. What method do you think they resort to get more money for their gambling addiction?
Those high rollers? Stealing land, not snatching purses. The ones snatching purses, robbing people and making problems down here live in bamboo shacks and squats man. They're dark skinned out in the sun all day beach bum punks. And I still can't understand the appeal of bacarrat... at all...
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by obelisks » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:54 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:
obelisks wrote:I used to enjoy the Ochheuteal Beach area a few years ago (2006/ 2007) and I never felt at all intimidated about walking along the poorly lit roads at night.
So when people here talk about attacks on foreigners are you referring to straightout mugging by a group of teenagers?
If you just keep a low profile isn't it possible to still stay safe and unaffected by this kind of crime in Sihanoukville? Are victims of crime asking for it in any way by carrying around large sums of money or valuables? And what would happen to you if you were confronted by a group and you were carrying only a small sum of money?
Its a different face down there now I would presume. Most of these guys are 20's or so, some older, almost all meth users/addicts, and highly aggressive. Some muggings, a number of bag snatchings, a lot of just attacking for the fight it seems.
That is sad. I would have thought that with the Prime Minister having his salubrious residence in that area things would have been kept a bit more upmarket?
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by LTO » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:06 pm

Casinos have been there since the mid/late 90s. The skyrocketing violent crime rate is a phenomenon of the last 6-8 years or so, basically corresponding with the influx of large numbers of the clownpants variety of low-class tourists, the coming of criminal age of Khmer youth, and the huge rise in the use of white powders, all in what is traditionally one of the most corrupt and poorly controlled fiefdoms in Cambodia. Nature is just taking its course.
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by Sailorman » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:41 pm

It all comes down to poorly paid, poorly led, lazy police. At some point if they want to keep the money rolling in, they will have to form tourist police squads, secure the beach area, kick the Cambo pipe-heads out and/or jail them, and do intelligence work on the gangs and break them up.
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by LTO » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:00 pm

Sailorman wrote:It all comes down to poorly paid, poorly led, lazy police.
Isn't low pay or laziness. Men that become cops know about the pay before they take the job. They take the job because they are corrupt and being a cop puts them in a position where they can make money from being corrupt. And they don't do their jobs as police, not because of laziness but because their job is not to 'protect and serve' let alone enforce the law. Their job is to enrich themselves using the law as a vague pretence. The problem is corruption from top to bottom and a completely different understanding of what it is to be a cop.
Sailorman wrote:At some point if they want to keep the money rolling in, they will have to form tourist police squads, secure the beach area, kick the Cambo pipe-heads out and/or jail them, and do intelligence work on the gangs and break them up.
Agreed. Well, that and seeing this sort of activity as the job of the police.
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Re: Violence in Sihanoukville

Post by Joker Poker » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:11 pm

I know a guy that worked as a trainee cop for about 6 months before he quit. It took 3 months to get paid for the first time! Absolutely hopeless. I guess you have to turn into an arsehole to survive. He went back to working at a wat.
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