Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by thePeck » Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:59 pm

I really don't know Joon which ones it was.

Both sides are wrong to a certain extent, the government more so in my opinion. Those police, or who ever, was unfortunately on the wrong side this day. As with some Khmer I know they furiously believe those are not Khmer but Vietnamese, right or wrong I don't know, but look at these as outsiders and in my mind a foreign force that doesn't belong here. These people mostly say, "Khmer wouldn't do that to Khmer". So there's no love or respect for these "police".

I believe pacifism works in some instances but not always. Innocents will always be hurt in any righteous viewed opposition.
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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by ali baba » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:24 pm

JBTrain wrote:Read the comments

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I can't read Khmer. :(

Is there a widespread call for violence or are these isolated opinions?
Any word from the leaders?
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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by thePeck » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:30 pm

I believe there's a big dissent mentality, especially among the youth, and I've even heard older Khmer mention it. But the older or not into putting theirs into action, just talking about it. The youth are more active of course, but more short sighted of the big picture.
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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by JBTrain » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:33 pm

ali baba wrote:
JBTrain wrote:Read the comments

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I can't read Khmer. :(

Is there a widespread call for violence or are these isolated opinions?
Any word from the leaders?
Open in Chrome and use Google Translate.

CNRP has issued a statement expressing regret for violence against security while demanding release of those taken into custody.
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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by Joon » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:35 pm

In order:

- ងាប់ទៅឯង/gnob tov eng: go to die
- ល្អណាស់.../lo-or nas: very good
- ស៊ូទ្រាំឈឺបង្ហូរឈាមឆ្កែថោកទាប ដើម្បីជាតិរួចពីយួន/soo troam chhoeur bonghor chheam chhker thaok teab dambey cheat rooch pi yuon: bearing the pain, draw blood from shameless dogs for the nation to be free from Vietnam.
- ធ្វើបានល្អ/tver ban lo-or: did good.
- Varaman Chey's comment is a poem basically saying that the guard had it coming.
- Kong Kongsure's comment is a spin to justify the violence saying that domestic and international laws provide for the right to "self-defense."
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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by ali baba » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:23 pm

Thankyou, Joon.
Some karma coming your way. :)
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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by clippy » Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:19 pm

yes it was the security guards on the wrong end of a revenge beatdown.

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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by General Mackevili » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:00 pm

CNRP Lawmakers-Elect Arrested After Protesters Turn Violent

Four opposition CNRP lawmakers-elect were arrested by police Tuesday morning after clashes broke out between district security guards and protesters near the heavily secured Freedom Park in Phnom Penh, where the four were leading a demonstration.

Clashes broke out at about 8 a.m. when Daun Penh district security guards began arguing with the protesters, who had flooded the area on Norodom Boulevard from multiple directions to support the protest led by CNRP public affairs chief Mu Sochua, who was among those arrested.

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Opposition CNRP protesters clash with helmeted Daun Penh district security guards Tuesday near Freedom Park. (Siv Channa/The Cambodia Daily)

The protesters, some of whom were wearing shirts reading “Free the Freedom Park,” and the notoriously violent guards began scuffling near the Ministry of Public Works and Transport on Norodom Boulevard.

Turning the tables on months of fighting between guards and protesters near the sealed-off park, which has seen multiple opposition supporters viciously beaten for their attempts to enter the park, the protesters began beating the ill-prepared guards.

“At least six security guards are seriously injured after being beaten by protesters,” said Phnom Penh deputy municipal police chief Chuon Narin, who was directing the Freedom Park operation.

When the clashes broke out, the district security guards attempted to flee the scene, running in various directions.

Some guards too slow to escape the protesters were pushed to the ground and then kicked, punched and beaten viciously with sticks. One, identified as Chhay Pitou, was beaten almost to the point of unconsciousness and was taken to Calmette Hospital for treatment.

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A man beats a Daun Penh district security guard Tuesday near Freedom Park. (Siv Channa/The Cambodia Daily)

Police then began firing smoke bombs to disperse the crowd. Ms. Sochua, who was accompanied by CNRP lawmakers-elect Men Sothavrin and Keo Phirum, were then prevented from leaving the scene.

With journalists and rights workers cleared away from the razor-wire fence facing Norodom Boulevard, the three opposition lawmakers-elect were led away from the locked-down Freedom Park area by police just after 10 a.m.

The three were transported to Phnom Penh municipal police headquarters for questioning. Ho Vann, another CNRP lawmaker-elect who took part in the morning’s demonstration, led a convoy of opposition supporters to the police headquarters, at which point he was also arrested.

“So far, four [CNRP lawmakers-elect] have been arrested and are being held at police headquarters for questioning,” said deputy municipal governor Khuong Sreng.

The four CNRP officials remained in detention throughout the afternoon.

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A security guard is beaten by opposition CNRP protesters Tuesday near Freedom Park. (Siv Channa/The Cambodia Daily)

Mr. Sreng said that 37 security guards were injured during the clash.

“In total, 37 municipal security guards were injured, of which six were seriously injured and two others are in emergency care with critical injuries,” he said.

“Whenever there’s violence, the leaders of demonstration must be immediately arrested for questioning and investigation.”

Mr. Narin, the deputy municipal police chief who was in charge of the operation, said the three arrested were not lawmakers.

“No lawmakers were arrested, police only arrested three crazy people,” he said. “Lawmakers would not act crazily at Freedom Park.”

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A security guard is bloodied following a clash with opposition CNRP protesters Tuesday near Freedom Park. (Siv Channa/The Cambodia Daily)

CNRP spokesman Yem Ponhearith confirmed that the protesters who fought back against the helmeted Daun Penh district security guards were opposition supporters and not impostors or agent provocateurs.

“There was no third party, but it was the security guards who started the violence and attacked the protesters as they often have done before,” Mr. Ponhearith said.

“We are so sorry for the violent clash today.”

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From left, opposition CNRP lawmaker-elect Men Sothavrin, public affairs chief Mu Sochua and opposition lawmaker-elect Keo Phirum stand behind police barriers after being detained Tuesday near Freedom Park. (Siv Channa/The Cambodia Daily)

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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by OrangeDragon » Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:44 pm

Kick a dog enough times and no matter how good of a dog it was before, eventually it will turn around and bite you.
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Re: Violence in Freedom Park this Morning

Post by takeoman » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:28 am

When this demonstration was first announced, all 55 CNRP MP's elect were requested to attend, why did the vast majority not turn up? It is being reported on 440 that at least one of those beaten by the mob was not a security guard, but an innocent bystander on his way to pay an electricity bill.
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