upcycling plastic
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upcycling plastic
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Re: upcycling plastic
Wow, that is actually a great initiative!
Top job.
I have a very dim view of all this eco BS that is prevalent here. These "biodegradable" food containers greenwashing is nonsense and it happens all over the world, it's ridiculous. There's a company in Cambodia that flogs this junk and it is no different to using styrofoam because it does not degrade in landfill and certainly not when it is lying on the ground, it just breaks down into smaller parts. They are often made of bio plastics and normal oil plastic (and not recycled either), but they conveniently forget to mention that.
Even the sugar cane waste (bagasse) is really bad for the environment as the land is cleared just for that purpose, and in fact it is the "waste" that is wanted to make this stuff. Plus of course the burning of the land after the season has finished.
Even recycled cardboard, which is probably the best eco product, is made with some new cardboard and all is imported. There is no home grown.
I see some businesses promoting the fact they use this stuff but only because they feel they need to to get business.
Top job.
I have a very dim view of all this eco BS that is prevalent here. These "biodegradable" food containers greenwashing is nonsense and it happens all over the world, it's ridiculous. There's a company in Cambodia that flogs this junk and it is no different to using styrofoam because it does not degrade in landfill and certainly not when it is lying on the ground, it just breaks down into smaller parts. They are often made of bio plastics and normal oil plastic (and not recycled either), but they conveniently forget to mention that.
Even the sugar cane waste (bagasse) is really bad for the environment as the land is cleared just for that purpose, and in fact it is the "waste" that is wanted to make this stuff. Plus of course the burning of the land after the season has finished.
Even recycled cardboard, which is probably the best eco product, is made with some new cardboard and all is imported. There is no home grown.
I see some businesses promoting the fact they use this stuff but only because they feel they need to to get business.
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Re: upcycling plastic
I tried to compost them "organic" and compostable plastic bags they are giving out in Italy. When I turned over the compost after 2 years they had barely decomposed.
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Re: upcycling plastic
It's compost you are supposed to do it weekly!truffledog wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:12 pm I tried to compost them "organic" and compostable plastic bags they are giving out in Italy. When I turned over the compost after 2 years they had barely decomposed.
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Turning regularly may give faster results (i dont need). But its not the only way of composting successfully. I introduce air with a different method. Has been working for 20y+.YaTingPom wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:20 pmIt's compost you are supposed to do it weekly!truffledog wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:12 pm I tried to compost them "organic" and compostable plastic bags they are giving out in Italy. When I turned over the compost after 2 years they had barely decomposed.
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Re: upcycling plastic
Styrofoam should be banned. They is no need for it. As a packaging material, formed cardboard can be used instead. For food to-go containers, again formed cardboard, and I believed there are products made from bamboo, corn and sugarcane fiber.
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Re: upcycling plastic
Forget the country (maybe Japan) ... but there is a new technology that takes plastic waste and mix with concrete and it makes roads that are more durable than traditional concrete. I try and did up the article.
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How is the land cleared just for the bagasse? The bagasse is the waste product after processing the sugar, not the sugar cane itself. The fibrous material burnt in neat little piles everywhere next to sugarcane juice vendors is not waste? It would be completely not sensical to grow a field of sugar cane just for the bagasse.YaTingPom wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:15 am Wow, that is actually a great initiative!
Top job.
I have a very dim view of all this eco BS that is prevalent here. These "biodegradable" food containers greenwashing is nonsense and it happens all over the world, it's ridiculous. There's a company in Cambodia that flogs this junk and it is no different to using styrofoam because it does not degrade in landfill and certainly not when it is lying on the ground, it just breaks down into smaller parts. They are often made of bio plastics and normal oil plastic (and not recycled either), but they conveniently forget to mention that.
Even the sugar cane waste (bagasse) is really bad for the environment as the land is cleared just for that purpose, and in fact it is the "waste" that is wanted to make this stuff. Plus of course the burning of the land after the season has finished.
Even recycled cardboard, which is probably the best eco product, is made with some new cardboard and all is imported. There is no home grown.
I see some businesses promoting the fact they use this stuff but only because they feel they need to to get business.
Sugar cane refineries gasify the bagasse waste product in order to generate the electricity that runs the refinery and in some cases actually feeds excess electricity back into the grid to provide additional energy.
There are also several other applications for the bagasse waste including it acting as a catalyst in chemical reactions, concrete, ceramics, and more.
Re: upcycling plastic
I hope everyone reading the article gets, that every time you use those brooms, you create a massive amount of microplastic. I stick to the rice straw brooms. Made of waste as well, 100% bio degradable and don't last long (maybe ½ year to max 1 year) which guarantees the makers a reliable income. The last one I bought was of the last Ox cart, that still roams around Phnom Penh.
Driving on Cambodian roads is just like playing a classic arcade top scroller. The only difference is a force feedback controller, the limitation to only one life and the inability to restart, once Game Over
Re: upcycling plastic
That is actually changing.EmpatheticUnicorn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:43 pmHow is the land cleared just for the bagasse? The bagasse is the waste product after processing the sugar, not the sugar cane itself. The fibrous material burnt in neat little piles everywhere next to sugarcane juice vendors is not waste? It would be completely not sensical to grow a field of sugar cane just for the bagasse.YaTingPom wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:15 am Wow, that is actually a great initiative!
Top job.
I have a very dim view of all this eco BS that is prevalent here. These "biodegradable" food containers greenwashing is nonsense and it happens all over the world, it's ridiculous. There's a company in Cambodia that flogs this junk and it is no different to using styrofoam because it does not degrade in landfill and certainly not when it is lying on the ground, it just breaks down into smaller parts. They are often made of bio plastics and normal oil plastic (and not recycled either), but they conveniently forget to mention that.
Even the sugar cane waste (bagasse) is really bad for the environment as the land is cleared just for that purpose, and in fact it is the "waste" that is wanted to make this stuff. Plus of course the burning of the land after the season has finished.
Even recycled cardboard, which is probably the best eco product, is made with some new cardboard and all is imported. There is no home grown.
I see some businesses promoting the fact they use this stuff but only because they feel they need to to get business.
Sugar cane refineries gasify the bagasse waste product in order to generate the electricity that runs the refinery and in some cases actually feeds excess electricity back into the grid to provide additional energy.
There are also several other applications for the bagasse waste including it acting as a catalyst in chemical reactions, concrete, ceramics, and more.
There's a new breed of sugar cane produced to create better waste rather than good quality sugar cane!
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