Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:55 am

TheImplication wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:14 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:21 am

TheImplication wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:13 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:31 am

That’s because in the great state of Texas the officials don’t like to infringe on individuals personal freedom, even confiscating/flagging passports of suspected murderers awaiting trial. No red flag laws in Texas.

The feds are running everyone through a no fly list, so what would be the difference with making sure those with active warrants or out on bond with travel restrictions from going anywhere? It goes beyond what Texas is doing.

No it doesn’t. How would they know at the Federal level who is out on bond or who has an active warrant at the State level if that state doesn’t input it into a National database? Like I stated before, Texas does not participate nor do they have a red flag law, so if they don’t confiscate someone’s passport, or flag the passport in the National database, they won’t know that individual is not allowed to fly.

That’s nonsense. Texas does cooperate with other states’ databases for wanted fugitives. They want criminals back to face charges just like every other state. But it’s easier to go on believing the state shields it’s citizens from legal recourse should they happen to travel out of state, because well, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws. Gtfo.

Two completely different issues Sherlock. They weren’t fugitives at the time, they were out on bond when they left the country. After the courts found out that they skipped, that is when they issued a fugitive arrest warrant for them, and that’s how they found out they were in Cambodia.

And no, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws and will never implement red flag laws here because they believe it violates a persons due process rights.

Pseudonomdeplume wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:19 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:55 am

TheImplication wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:14 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:21 am

TheImplication wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:13 am

The feds are running everyone through a no fly list, so what would be the difference with making sure those with active warrants or out on bond with travel restrictions from going anywhere? It goes beyond what Texas is doing.

No it doesn’t. How would they know at the Federal level who is out on bond or who has an active warrant at the State level if that state doesn’t input it into a National database? Like I stated before, Texas does not participate nor do they have a red flag law, so if they don’t confiscate someone’s passport, or flag the passport in the National database, they won’t know that individual is not allowed to fly.

That’s nonsense. Texas does cooperate with other states’ databases for wanted fugitives. They want criminals back to face charges just like every other state. But it’s easier to go on believing the state shields it’s citizens from legal recourse should they happen to travel out of state, because well, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws. Gtfo.

Two completely different issues Sherlock. They weren’t fugitives at the time, they were out on bond when they left the country. After the courts found out that they skipped, that is when they issued a fugitive arrest warrant for them, and that’s how they found out they were in Cambodia.

And no, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws and will never implement red flag laws here because they believe it violates a persons due process rights.

No red flag laws so the good folks can purchase their much-needed firearms, without any obstacles.

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:24 am

Pseudonomdeplume wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:19 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:55 am

TheImplication wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:14 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:21 am

No it doesn’t. How would they know at the Federal level who is out on bond or who has an active warrant at the State level if that state doesn’t input it into a National database? Like I stated before, Texas does not participate nor do they have a red flag law, so if they don’t confiscate someone’s passport, or flag the passport in the National database, they won’t know that individual is not allowed to fly.

That’s nonsense. Texas does cooperate with other states’ databases for wanted fugitives. They want criminals back to face charges just like every other state. But it’s easier to go on believing the state shields it’s citizens from legal recourse should they happen to travel out of state, because well, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws. Gtfo.

Two completely different issues Sherlock. They weren’t fugitives at the time, they were out on bond when they left the country. After the courts found out that they skipped, that is when they issued a fugitive arrest warrant for them, and that’s how they found out they were in Cambodia.

And no, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws and will never implement red flag laws here because they believe it violates a persons due process rights.

No red flag laws so the good folks can purchase their much-needed firearms, without any obstacles.

And allows them to skip out on their bond and leave the country, and allows the bad people to purchase their much needed firearms to do a mass shooting. So everybody wins, well not everyone.

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:08 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:24 am

Pseudonomdeplume wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:19 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:55 am

TheImplication wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:14 am

That’s nonsense. Texas does cooperate with other states’ databases for wanted fugitives. They want criminals back to face charges just like every other state. But it’s easier to go on believing the state shields it’s citizens from legal recourse should they happen to travel out of state, because well, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws. Gtfo.

Two completely different issues Sherlock. They weren’t fugitives at the time, they were out on bond when they left the country. After the courts found out that they skipped, that is when they issued a fugitive arrest warrant for them, and that’s how they found out they were in Cambodia.

And no, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws and will never implement red flag laws here because they believe it violates a persons due process rights.

No red flag laws so the good folks can purchase their much-needed firearms, without any obstacles.

And allows them to skip out on their bond and leave the country, and allows the bad people to purchase their much needed firearms to do a mass shooting. So everybody wins, well not everyone.

It must be a tough life being a bondsman with 10 day lags between the removal of the bracelet and it being reported, and the ability to not only keep their passports but being able to use them when taking an international flight out of the country.

I bet they want red flag laws...

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:18 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:08 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:24 am

Pseudonomdeplume wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:19 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:55 am

Two completely different issues Sherlock. They weren’t fugitives at the time, they were out on bond when they left the country. After the courts found out that they skipped, that is when they issued a fugitive arrest warrant for them, and that’s how they found out they were in Cambodia.

And no, Texas doesn’t like red flag laws and will never implement red flag laws here because they believe it violates a persons due process rights.

No red flag laws so the good folks can purchase their much-needed firearms, without any obstacles.

And allows them to skip out on their bond and leave the country, and allows the bad people to purchase their much needed firearms to do a mass shooting. So everybody wins, well not everyone.

It must be a tough life being a bondsman with 10 day lags between the removal of the bracelet and it being reported, and the ability to not only keep their passports but being able to use them when taking an international flight out of the country.

I bet they want red flag laws...

Some of the laws they do have here, or lack of, I do have reservations about. I do question how a $500,000 bond can be posted for a murder charge with the court requiring nothing more than an ankle monitor. But it is what it is.

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:55 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:18 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:08 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:24 am

Pseudonomdeplume wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:19 am

No red flag laws so the good folks can purchase their much-needed firearms, without any obstacles.

And allows them to skip out on their bond and leave the country, and allows the bad people to purchase their much needed firearms to do a mass shooting. So everybody wins, well not everyone.

It must be a tough life being a bondsman with 10 day lags between the removal of the bracelet and it being reported, and the ability to not only keep their passports but being able to use them when taking an international flight out of the country.

I bet they want red flag laws...

Some of the laws they do have here, or lack of, I do have reservations about. I do question how a $500,000 bond can be posted for a murder charge with the court requiring nothing more than an ankle monitor. But it is what it is.

Do they have to come up with $500,000? I seem to remember you put down a % of the bond and the bailbond man is on the hook for the rest. Is that correct?

In the UK, bail for a murder charge is virtually unheard of. If you're charged with murder you get to spend 6-12 months at Her Majesty's pleasure until your trial date comes up.

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:05 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:55 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:18 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:08 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:24 am

And allows them to skip out on their bond and leave the country, and allows the bad people to purchase their much needed firearms to do a mass shooting. So everybody wins, well not everyone.

It must be a tough life being a bondsman with 10 day lags between the removal of the bracelet and it being reported, and the ability to not only keep their passports but being able to use them when taking an international flight out of the country.

I bet they want red flag laws...

Some of the laws they do have here, or lack of, I do have reservations about. I do question how a $500,000 bond can be posted for a murder charge with the court requiring nothing more than an ankle monitor. But it is what it is.

Do they have to come up with $500,000? I seem to remember you put down a % of the bond and the bailbond man is on the hook for the rest. Is that correct?

In the UK, bail for a murder charge is virtually unheard of. If you're charged with murder you get to spend 6-12 months at Her Majesty's pleasure until your trial date comes up.

Yes, you have to come up with at least 10% to pay to the bondsman. How two people with no jobs came up with $50,000 each has me scratching my head. All states are different, but Texas law states that the judge must set a bond, even for a murder charge.

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:27 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:05 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:55 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:18 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:08 am

It must be a tough life being a bondsman with 10 day lags between the removal of the bracelet and it being reported, and the ability to not only keep their passports but being able to use them when taking an international flight out of the country.

I bet they want red flag laws...

Some of the laws they do have here, or lack of, I do have reservations about. I do question how a $500,000 bond can be posted for a murder charge with the court requiring nothing more than an ankle monitor. But it is what it is.

Do they have to come up with $500,000? I seem to remember you put down a % of the bond and the bailbond man is on the hook for the rest. Is that correct?

In the UK, bail for a murder charge is virtually unheard of. If you're charged with murder you get to spend 6-12 months at Her Majesty's pleasure until your trial date comes up.

Yes, you have to come up with at least 10% to pay to the bondsman. How two people with no jobs came up with $50,000 each has me scratching my head. All states are different, but Texas law states that the judge must set a bond, even for a murder charge.

$50k sounds cheap to get a chance of absconding from a murder charge. How much is a one way bus ride from Houston to El Paso?

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:41 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:27 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:05 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:55 am

Kenr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:18 am

Some of the laws they do have here, or lack of, I do have reservations about. I do question how a $500,000 bond can be posted for a murder charge with the court requiring nothing more than an ankle monitor. But it is what it is.

Do they have to come up with $500,000? I seem to remember you put down a % of the bond and the bailbond man is on the hook for the rest. Is that correct?

In the UK, bail for a murder charge is virtually unheard of. If you're charged with murder you get to spend 6-12 months at Her Majesty's pleasure until your trial date comes up.

Yes, you have to come up with at least 10% to pay to the bondsman. How two people with no jobs came up with $50,000 each has me scratching my head. All states are different, but Texas law states that the judge must set a bond, even for a murder charge.

$50k sounds cheap to get a chance of absconding from a murder charge. How much is a one way bus ride from Houston to El Paso?

LOL. Never been to El Paso, and definitely would never go by bus. Besides, Brownsville is closer . Yeah, guess that’s why the judge set the new bond at $4 million. Let’s see if they can come up with $400k.