I've got a coffee roaster in downtown SHV& his whole beans are 18,000/kilo for his (mid level) Red Stripe Blend. When I buy 5 it's 14K. It's Robusta, but surprisingly good. It's not adulterated at all. The phony stuff I run into in restaurants sometimes, tastes like they throw in vanilla to me & it's a little greasy. Having paid big $$ for different coffees from all over the world all my life, I was really shocked how good this cheap Robusta shit is.

Soumy Phan wrote:Not to mention, the vegetables that are being imported to Cambodia everyday contain a lot of chemical which can slowly damage our health.

Vegetables contain a lot of chemicals, mostly H2O. What other chemicals did you have in mind?

Soumy Phan wrote:Honestly i am so afraid to discuss with you about something related to Vietnamese, as you are so sensitive about it.

Who is sensitive about it? Just go ahead and tell us.

Oh by the way, let's not forget the steroids you (Khmer people) pump into your animals. It kills your children and gives the rest of us tumors. But hey, you can sell for 500 riel more in the market!

BOFH wrote:

Soumy Phan wrote:Not to mention, the vegetables that are being imported to Cambodia everyday contain a lot of chemical which can slowly damage our health.

Vegetables contain a lot of chemicals, mostly H2O. What other chemicals did you have in mind?

Pesticides. Weed killers. Human waste. Whatever nasty stuff might be in the polluted land they grow the crops on or in the polluted water they irrigate with.

(CNN) -- If you're eating non-organic celery today, you may be ingesting 67 pesticides with it, according to a new report from the Environmental Working Group.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/01/di ... pesticide/

Contaminated food is a huge problem in the Western world too, but absolutely endemic to some of the food supplies in and around China.

Imported vegetables are not your only problem, though it fits nicely into your Khmer love Khmer kumbaya agenda.

"A new study shows that many Cambodian vegetable farmers suffer from acute pesticide poisoning. It is the latest to indicate that Cambodia, like many other developing nations, is struggling to protect farmers and consumers from the dangers of pesticides.... A group of Danish researchers recently interviewed 89 farmers growing vegetables on outskirts of Phnom Penh. They found that 90 percent had experienced symptoms of acute pesticide poisoning."

http://m.voanews.com/a/pesticides-conti ... 66941.html

Getting good Laos coffee in SV from a chinese guy on 04sangkat rd.
showed me his wood fired roaster.

4 grades from 10 to 25 per kg.
the 20 dollar grade is very good.
no sign of corn or soy in his roasting area.

BOFH wrote:

Soumy Phan wrote:Not to mention, the vegetables that are being imported to Cambodia everyday contain a lot of chemical which can slowly damage our health.

Vegetables contain a lot of chemicals, mostly H2O. What other chemicals did you have in mind?

I am surprised you that you couldn't think of other chemicals that contained in the vegetable. Thanks Soi Dog for showing you some.

http://tuoitrenews.vn/business/23066/eu ... nfractions

Soumy Phan wrote:Honestly i am so afraid to discuss with you about something related to Vietnamese, as you are so sensitive about it.

Who is sensitive about it? Just go ahead and tell us.

Oh by the way, let's not forget the steroids you (Khmer people) pump into your animals. It kills your children and gives the rest of us tumors. But hey, you can sell for 500 riel more in the market!

The mysterious illness in this video still remained unknown, so we actually don't know what caused the illness, moreover it highlighted about malaria and dengue which caused by mosquito bite, i hope you know that. They don't cause by eating chemical vegetable. We are now talking about chemical and contaminated vegetable which can cause you to have cancer, diarrhea, typhoid and​ etc.

JBTrain wrote:Imported vegetables are not your only problem, though it fits nicely into your Khmer love Khmer kumbaya agenda.

"A new study shows that many Cambodian vegetable farmers suffer from acute pesticide poisoning. It is the latest to indicate that Cambodia, like many other developing nations, is struggling to protect farmers and consumers from the dangers of pesticides.... A group of Danish researchers recently interviewed 89 farmers growing vegetables on outskirts of Phnom Penh. They found that 90 percent had experienced symptoms of acute pesticide poisoning."

http://m.voanews.com/a/pesticides-conti ... 66941.html

Fortunately i didn't mention that the vegetables grown in Cambodia are chemical-free. Neither Cambodia nor Vietnam vegetables contain chemical that really can harm the consumer's health. i agree with the researchers that 90 percents of Cambodian farmers experienced with symptoms of acute pesticide poisoning, because more and more Cambodian farmers started to use pesticides, after the pesticide products mainly exported from vietnam were well advertised throughout the country. Therefore if possible we should boycott both Vietnam and Cambodia's vegetables to contained chemical. I are sure that you can find chemical-free vegetable an organic vegetables in Cambodia, but they are just a bit expensive.

wackyjacky wrote:

Mr Curious wrote:I actually like the stuff, I've tried several. One claimed 25% ACTUAL coffee I mix it with some real coffee. I mean hell, the stuff costs half the price of real coffee, kind of a tip off no? It's everywhere, them cops are gonna be busy.

Where's the margin then ? I pay about $3 /kilo for really good Cambodian coffee. It's Robusto not Arabica, but it rocks.

could'nt find any robusto last time I was there, bought some in Bangkok but ran out. I need to holler at JM cuz he knows some place with some good Lao robusto as I recall. But I think it was $7 a pound. $3 a kilo. Sure gotta try some of that. Where?

JBTrain wrote:

Soumy Phan wrote:It has been a rumor for a few years too in Cambodia. However, since there was no evidence had been found or proven, people seemed to pay no attention with the Vietnamese coffee that they were drinking every day. i really want all Cambodian to boycott Vietnamese's products. Not to mention, the vegetables that are being imported to Cambodia everyday contain a lot of chemical which can slowly damage our health.
Honestly i am so afraid to discuss with you about something related to Vietnamese, as you are so sensitive about it.

My sensitivity notwithstanding (WTF) , this has been well documented, it was thoroughly discussed on 440 a couple years ago wherein a poster who was a Cambodia based distributor was essentially driven out of business by the dumping of the chemicoffee among his Cambodian buyers.

[k440 link removed]

You may be shocked to learn, apparently, that I'm against this practice. I for one would love to see a boycott of chemicoffee, please go ahead and get on it.

I remember that thread, great stuff. That guy didn't make it? DAMN. What do you mean "dumping of the chemicoffee among his Cambodian buyers" ? An tell the good folks where that good Lao you got was, on a corner of the orassay market? was it?

For what it's worth, I buy coffee in PNH near the bus station, Phnom Penh Sorya. They seem to do a booming trade and have Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Laos beans. Grind it for you. Reasonable prices, They also had weasel Vietnamese last time I was there.

The subject of chicken and pork are even more scary than vegetables and coffee.

Today's quiz: How can USA producers of poultry, specifically chicken, ship chickens(I don't know what form, frozen or live) to China for processing, and then ship them back to the USA and do so profitably? Seems like a long trip, especially for the chicken if he's alive.

Extra quiz question: Why is it every time I cross the border from Thailand into Cambodia at the Poi Pet crossing, there are truckloads of live pigs also crossing? The pigs are usually medium in size meaning not large animals. But they are alive and not looking happy about the conditions. Just curious again how this is more profitable than raising pigs in Cambodia itself?