Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:01 pm In Cambodia they abuse the word 'associate degree' for these courses.

The US seems to have a similar issue, confusing a high-school certificate with an actual, honest-to-goodness degree or diploma.

Luigi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:21 pm ''Cambodian universities require a Year 12 certificate as an entrance requirement - BUT THE STUDENT DIDN'T HAVE TO PASS!

So... how do you get a 12 year cert. if yoiu did not pass the previous 11?

''they do a year at university focusing on the core final year high school subjects, sit the exam again. If they pass they can enter their bachelor program.

How did they get to set for university exams if they failed to complete final grade 12? ?? Is it just the $?

Maybe it's the word ''University'' that I'm hung up on.
For instance, I would never be able to set for ''University'' exams without a transcripts.
Even community colleges have some qualifications. Or not?

I think you're making the mistake of comparing the education system in Cambodia to literally any other country on earth. It's an easy mistake to make.

First, remember that Pol Pot's agenda included murdering any educated person in the country, and he was quite successful at that. Then, be aware that education WAS the domain of the monks, but the number of monks has strongly declined for historical (KR) reasons, and some would argue so has the quality. Government school teachers are horrendously underpaid to the point that it's unremarkable that kids have to take small money each day for the teacher, or they won't get taught. Further, there is a shortage of schools in built-up areas, so kids time-share the schools for half of each day, attending in the morning one month, and then the afternoon the next. Until last year, it was normal for students to buy the answers to their exams as the exam started, although the government seems to have noticed a correlation between that, and a steep reduction in aid dollars from other countries for education programs. Etc.

Now to the point of your questions. Year 12 certificates are given to everyone who attends year 12 - regardless of grades, and including fails. This is not uncommon, it's just an attendance and grades sheet. Passing or failing is a secondary concern. If you do well, you can enter a bachelor program at university. If you don't, you do a bridging program for a year (for a set of fees) and then enter a bachelor program at university.

Now, in addition, don't confuse your awareness of the university industry with what happens in Cambodia, that's a whole other thing.

Here's a quirky little observation - the girls on the team that just passed Year 12 were given a book of badly written English essays for their English unit, and told to read and memorise the essays. Without first being taught to read or speak English.

OK then............this is going to take me a while to digest this.
I'm ..........OK then.
Got it!
Not.

Luigi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:15 pm OK then............this is going to take me a while to digest this.
I'm ..........OK then.
Got it!
Not.

Ha!

CEOCambodiaNews wrote:BREAKING NEWS: 66% Pass Cambodia's Grade 12 Examination
09/09/18 17:26
Phnom Penh (FN), Sept. 9 - At least 75,059 Cambodian Grade 12 students passed the National Examination 2018 (Bacc II), an equivalent to 66.% compared to 63.8% in 2017, according to Ministry of Education, Youth, and Sports' press release on Sunday.

Among the 115,268 examinees, 58,158 female, at least 290 got "A" grade; 1,532 "B"; 4,631 "C"; 13,999 "D"; and 54,607 "E".

Unfortunately, 17 failed automatically for breaking exam rules.

Detailed result announcement of Phnom Penh and Kandal will be announced Sunday afternoon and other provinces tomorrow.
=FRESH NEWS

After many students did not accept the result of exam, The ministry of education decided to check the data of all students’ score that they inserted before.
Ministry of education updated new result,the last result is mistaken by computer program error.Now grade A students increased number to 408 students.


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The Labour Ministry yesterday encouraged students who failed the national exam to apply for scholarships ...

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50534036/o ... -students/

Only in Cambodia

Kammekor wrote:In a country where a gas guzzling Lexus RX-series with an age of 12 years and 150.000 miles on the clock is considered higher value than a new Toyota Avanza.
In a country where people will buy a car before they build a house.
In a country where people believe loans are cheaper than in the USA because they only pay 1% instead of 3-4% over there.

Explaining anything that's beyond their expectations/experiences is pretty tough.

The Khmer live here. They know how the system works in the KOW. Status and face are important. Lexus IS a much bigger status symbol than Toyota. A car is driven around (and seen) much more than a house. USA loans are amortized over 30 yrs at 3-4% doubling and tripling the cost of the original loan, despite a lower monthly payment.

The locals are best suited to take advantage of their system.

Extreme short sightedness got them through Pol Pot.

The problem is now adjusting to a new paradigm of the world market which emphasizes education and long term planning.

Even plenty in good old USA miss the mark and get trapped in the cycle of payday loans and living beyond their means.

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:54 pmExtreme short sightedness got them through Pol Pot.

Ah, so that's why they targeted people with glasses.

NOT.

that genius wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:57 pm

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:54 pmExtreme short sightedness got them through Pol Pot.

Ah, so that's why they targeted people with glasses.

NOT.

Maybe they were shortsighted because they didn't wear glasses.