Operation to inspect the residences of foreigners

YouTube · Post by **General Mackevili** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:49 am

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:14 pm
orichá wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:53 pm Of course inspection is in name only.

...Local chiefs have the prerogative to take as much as they like from whoever they like, as is traditional to use property here... For example, the Chinese mob is penetrating deeply into the city of Phnom Penh. No longer are they limited to the outskirts of the city around the airport or way out in Poipet:

A colleague reported three weeks ago that he was given 10 days to vacate an apartment premises in Toul Tumpun, in the very heart of the chic expat district, in which you find non-girly bars and restos, and also in which a sizeable population of professional expats reside, including hundreds of people working at embassies, NGOs, and schools.

The man's entire apartment block was abruptly leased by persons unknown. He noticed the week following his eviction that a large black steel gate had been erected in front of the building entrance. The business inside is unknown but could be anything. Chinese guys coming and going apparently.

So, there you go. That the feckless government "expresses surprise" comes as no surprise because the ruling elite for years has given free reign to local authorities and judges to do as they please in their territory as a simple way to maintain their loyalty. Look the other way as the police chief and landlord take big money. Anyway, it's nothing new.

Sihanoukville is full of Chinese, Indonesians, Bangladeshis, etc, etc, and plenty of locals nibbling away in several multi-storey edifices all over town... It is getting busier.

One thing is sure though. The cool sea air at the beach sure as hell beats the crap out of dusty hot little Shitpot and Poopoo Penh, lol...

Riding the tuk-tuk to the bus station in PP the other night, the air was full of smoke, really thick and awful, from Boeung Tumpun all the way up to Daun Penh.

Why does this post ruffle the feathers of the mods so much? I don't think the description is that far from the truth.

He's definitely been over the top aggressive and negative lately. It's one thing to use the forum to vent now and again, but it's another to use it as a punching bag for all your frustrations.

I see he's apologized and said he'll cool it, so that's good.

Random Dude · Post by **Random Dude** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:08 am

orichá wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:20 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:05 pm
orichá wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:40 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:30 pm
Shitpot and Poopoo Penh, lol...
Fucking hell, are you five years old?
What's that supposed to mean?
It means you are using language that only young children use. Being puerile.
I apologize. You are right. will take a break. . . Maybe a long vacation.

Truly sorry, I am just a little frustrated by so much lying. The government announces the air quality is great in Phnom Penh. When it isn't.

Sorry to upset with my petulance. Later, alligators...

Living in a different country and culture can be a challenge to the mental health sometimes, small frustrations build up, sometimes without you even realizing it's happening and before you know it you're making mountains out of molehills, getting pissed off at the small stuff and hating everyone and everything around you.

A lot of people vent their frustrations which can be quite healthy in my opinion, but the line between venting and letting yourself go down a toxic rabbit hole can be a fine one.

Take a break. Go and chill on a quiet beach, or spend a couple of weeks somewhere super civilized and developed - Japan maybe- whatever your buzz is, and if after a few weeks you find yourself still feeling the same way about wherever you're at now then maybe it's time to think about moving on.

I know a lot of people, probably in the dozens, who have left Asia and still think of their time there fondly, with great memories that will last a lifetime. I think that's a great thing. But I also know a few people who stayed too long after the honeymoon period wore off and the lifestyle starting getting to them, now they do nothing but bitch and get angry about their time there, and I think that's a damn shame. The great times are forgotten, all that's left is bitterness and the need to shit talk the place.

Make the call now so that when you're an old fart you'll be able to happily reminisce your Asia time rather than it being a source of PTSD.

WildAlaskaKen · Post by **WildAlaskaKen** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:21 am

orichá wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:40 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:30 pm
Shitpot and Poopoo Penh, lol...
Fucking hell, are you five years old?
What's that supposed to mean? Kampot is a dusty ugly little dump full of nobs and losers and Phnom Penh is fucking mismanaged dump hole.

It is ugly and polluted by the smoke of dozens of small brick factories burning polyester, nylon and rubber day and night.

The government is run with the same kind of bloody awful corruption and incompetence as was Spain during the regime of Generalissimo Franco, LOL...

I CAN SEE THAT...

Why are you here then?

WildAlaskaKen · Post by **WildAlaskaKen** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:25 am

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:25 am
xandreu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:03 pm I used to get visits like this quite frequently when I lived in a condo, but as I was never there, they often just dealt with my landlord and I would just give him my documents for when they came back. They did come once when a friend was there, they asked to see me and when he told them I wasn't there, they just left. I've never actually had to deal with them myself.

What is the protocol when they turn up? What's their demeanour like? Official and authoritarian or polite and respectful?
Do you invite them in whilst you look for your documents or make them wait at the door?
I don't have the FPCS app on my phone. I'm still a bit confused as to how it works. I assumed only the landlord needed it on their phone. I know I'm on it because I had to help him put me on it, but we did it on his phone, not mine. I guess I should download it. Buggered if I know the password though.

Any tips and tricks on how you should deal with them?
They told me they were coming one day and then canceled. Then the next morning five of them pounced on me as I returned from buying coffee. One of them was a heavy guy in a green uniform with a gun and he stood outside. Two others had officer hats and braids and stuff. I thought it was a ridiculous annoyance as I was on my way out. I didn't really humour them much and spent most of the time smoking on the balcony nearby. One even asked for some money for coffee on the way out. I had the a couple of miserable squashed 10,000 Riel notes in my wallet that they were too embarrassed to take. Overall a fantastic experience 10/10.

Do I have to hide my bong?

reggie perrin's dad · Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:55 am

WildAlaskaKen wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:25 am
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:25 am
xandreu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:03 pm I used to get visits like this quite frequently when I lived in a condo, but as I was never there, they often just dealt with my landlord and I would just give him my documents for when they came back. They did come once when a friend was there, they asked to see me and when he told them I wasn't there, they just left. I've never actually had to deal with them myself.

What is the protocol when they turn up? What's their demeanour like? Official and authoritarian or polite and respectful?
Do you invite them in whilst you look for your documents or make them wait at the door?
I don't have the FPCS app on my phone. I'm still a bit confused as to how it works. I assumed only the landlord needed it on their phone. I know I'm on it because I had to help him put me on it, but we did it on his phone, not mine. I guess I should download it. Buggered if I know the password though.

Any tips and tricks on how you should deal with them?
They told me they were coming one day and then canceled. Then the next morning five of them pounced on me as I returned from buying coffee. One of them was a heavy guy in a green uniform with a gun and he stood outside. Two others had officer hats and braids and stuff. I thought it was a ridiculous annoyance as I was on my way out. I didn't really humour them much and spent most of the time smoking on the balcony nearby. One even asked for some money for coffee on the way out. I had the a couple of miserable squashed 10,000 Riel notes in my wallet that they were too embarrassed to take. Overall a fantastic experience 10/10.
Do I have to hide my bong?

Nah mate, you'll be fine. I often hear Khmers talking about 'bong' so they'd probably enjoy a blast. Fire it up and offer them a hit.

They can only say 'no'.

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:41 pm

Random Dude wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:08 am
orichá wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:20 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:05 pm
orichá wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:40 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:30 pm

Fucking hell, are you five years old?
What's that supposed to mean?
It means you are using language that only young children use. Being puerile.
I apologize. You are right. will take a break. . . Maybe a long vacation.

Truly sorry, I am just a little frustrated by so much lying. The government announces the air quality is great in Phnom Penh. When it isn't.

Sorry to upset with my petulance. Later, alligators...
Living in a different country and culture can be a challenge to the mental health sometimes, small frustrations build up, sometimes without you even realizing it's happening and before you know it you're making mountains out of molehills, getting pissed off at the small stuff and hating everyone and everything around you.

A lot of people vent their frustrations which can be quite healthy in my opinion, but the line between venting and letting yourself go down a toxic rabbit hole can be a fine one.

Take a break. Go and chill on a quiet beach, or spend a couple of weeks somewhere super civilized and developed - Japan maybe- whatever your buzz is, and if after a few weeks you find yourself still feeling the same way about wherever you're at now then maybe it's time to think about moving on.

I know a lot of people, probably in the dozens, who have left Asia and still think of their time there fondly, with great memories that will last a lifetime. I think that's a great thing. But I also know a few people who stayed too long after the honeymoon period wore off and the lifestyle starting getting to them, now they do nothing but bitch and get angry about their time there, and I think that's a damn shame. The great times are forgotten, all that's left is bitterness and the need to shit talk the place.

Make the call now so that when you're an old fart you'll be able to happily reminisce your Asia time rather than it being a source of PTSD.

Probably the best posts I have seen in a long time. You nailed it. This old quote spring to mind:

give me the grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, courage to change the things which should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish one from the other.”

And that's the rub; you cannot change the way this place looks, smells or operates. So, if the things that displease you outweigh the things that please you, and there is nothing you can do to change that, it is time to look elsewhere.

PSD-Kiwi · Post by **PSD-Kiwi** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:26 pm

xandreu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:03 pm
What is the protocol when they turn up? What's their demeanour like? Official and authoritarian or polite and respectful?
Do you invite them in whilst you look for your documents or make them wait at the door?
I don't have the FPCS app on my phone. I'm still a bit confused as to how it works. I assumed only the landlord needed it on their phone. I know I'm on it because I had to help him put me on it, but we did it on his phone, not mine. I guess I should download it. Buggered if I know the password though.

Any tips and tricks on how you should deal with them?

They are polite and pleasant, as long as you are. They'll just ask a few basic questions ie. How long have you lived here, what do you do - work, retired, etc. and They'll ask to see your passport and check you have a valid Visa EOS, and if working or on an EB EOS they'll also ask to see your Work Permit, if married and have kids to a Cambodiain they may ask to see their documents also. It's nothing to be concerned about.

They do not ask to see the FPCS, because that is not the responsibility of foreign tenants, they will ask the landlord/property owner for that, as that is their responsibility.

Edit: obviously will all depend on the officers that turn up how they treat you, but all my experiences have been pleasant, I have never been asked for tea money and it has never been hinted at, I'm usually having a beer so will offer them one but always gets politely refused, except one time when our Sangkat Chief popped over been nosey about the new (only) foreigner living in the hood, which turned into a pleasant afternoon of bbq and beers.

Tootsfriend · Post by **Tootsfriend** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:27 pm

Not once in over 20 years here has anyone from any gov department asked me to show my passport or ID or anything ,, other than when arriving at the airport.

It's almost as if I'm being ignored and taken for granted. Perhaps I should do something to attract the attention of the authorities.

Albror · Post by **Albror** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:00 pm

So what do you think they will say if one stay here on EB without work permit now?

Renewed my visa without work permit (paid extra) as i did not have time to stick around wait for it before i had to leave the country. I already paid tea money to get the visa so in that sense they accept it. As its not a secret and offered by most agents as long as you pay. But i assume the officer knocking on the door might want some money too

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:46 pm

When they came to my place I showed them my work permit but they didn't show much interest in it, possibly because it's a Ministry of Labor concern and they are Ministry of Interior.

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