Username Taken wrote: Charlie, this forum and thread is for Cambodian news. Nobody here is interested in a certain village in Wales in the 80s.

vladimir wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:16 pm I disagree, UT, swarthy, cottage-burning dwarves are always amusing.

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:49 pm Duncan, could you post those old CD articles in smaller amounts pls ?
There's a lot of info in each post, and its impossible to pick out individual bits of articles for copy and paste to discuss because there's a block. Ends up as too much stuff at the same time I think. Shame.

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:59 pm The brutal.murders were carried out in 2011. This is a great piece to show how fucking absolutely evil this government and its police and judiciary are. It should also stand as a reminder of why many Cambodians are afraid of voting against them.
The French police believe it was the brother in law of Laurent along with 3 - 5 other locals who murdered the children aged between 2 and 11, and Laurent. They must have cut them up, hopefully after dead, and placed parts of their bodies in a suitcase in the boot.

From 2013

Laurent Vallier suicide ruled out

http://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/lau ... -ruled-out

French and Cambodian investigators confer earlier this month at the site where the bodies of French national Laurent Vallier and his four children were found in Kampong Speu province in 2012. Photograph: Stringer
A group of French and Cambodian investigators have ruled out suicide as the cause of death of Frenchman Laurent Vallier, whose decomposed remains – along with those of his four children – were discovered early last year in an SUV in a pond behind his home in Kampong Speu province, the French embassy said on Friday.

The findings of the latest inquest – which began in mid-March under the supervision of French investigating judge Claudine Enfoux – overturned those of a preliminary investigation conducted in January, which found that Vallier, 42, had killed himself and his children by driving his car into the nine-metre-deep pond, possibly because of financial difficulties.

“Thanks to this effective and constant collaboration, many exchanges of files and procedure acts related to the case, advanced forensic research, as well as numerous hearings have indeed been arranged,” an embassy statement reads. “This has led to very significant breakthroughs, which are now ruling out the possibility of a suicide.”

The bodies of Vallier, a widower, and his four small children were discovered in the submerged SUV on January 14, 2012, four months after they had last been seen alive. By the end of the month, police had ruled the deaths a murder-suicide.

However, according to Chem Rithy, an investigating judge with the Kampong Speu Provincial Court who was involved in the re-investigation, a second look at the facts made that conclusion impossible.

First of all, he said, Vallier’s skull was found in a suitcase in the back of the car, despite the fact that the pond had no current that could have moved it from where his body was found in the front passenger’s seat, a fact that also makes it clear he was not the driver.

No evidence of decomposition was found on the driver’s seat, Rithy went on, though a pair of sandals was found on the driver’s side that would have been too small for Vallier. What’s more, the driver’s-side door was not closed properly, indicating that someone had managed to get the vehicle into the pond and then jumped out, he said.

Finally, he continued, there were no other signs of murder-suicide, such as the poison or sleeping pills that often accompany such scenes, and an examination of the car’s electric system showed that it had most likely been pushed into the water, not driven.

“Now we are looking for suspects,” Rithy said, noting that there could have been “three to five people” involved. “Vallier was a very cautious person, because witnesses said he used to say that if any accident happened to him, let his children stay at the French embassy and contact their grandmother in France to come and see them.”

Police are now taking blood samples found in the Frenchman’s house to be tested to determine whether the blood was Vallier’s or an animal’s, he added.

Nicolas Baudouin, a spokesman for the French embassy, confirmed that the French investigators were leaving Cambodia, and that investigating Judge Enfoux would “take the findings back to France and continue to process them”.

“The family has lodged a complaint in France, and so she will be following up on that,” he said. “She will be examining the results of the hearing, the evidence that she has been collecting, and we will see what happens next.”

Vallier’s father-in-law, Tith Chhuon, said the investigation had only validated what he had been saying all along.

“From the beginning, I didn’t believe at all that my son-in-law and his children committed suicide because they didn’t have enough food to eat,” he said.

“I always thought it must be something [else], and now [they think] the same as I do.”

Chhuon, his wife and his daughter were questioned by the provincial court in January of this year after they applied for titles granting ownership of Vallier’s land, and again by French investigators earlier this month.

The relatives were never named as suspects, and Chhuon said at the time that he had applied for the title simply because he was the next of kin.

“I don’t know what misdeeds befell my grandchildren and son-in-law before they died,” Chhoun said yesterday, adding that there was no particular person that he suspected. “Nowadays, when I rest on my bed, I always look at their photos and grieve for them.”

This from The Diplomat.
http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/murdered ... nt-page-1/


Notice how the French police seem to be saying that it was that nice man, Laurent's brother in law, and most likely his father-in-law who murdered them all. Also beleive that he lied about not sleeping like a baby after these horrific crimes.

And then there was the supposed murder-suicide case of a French family in September 2011. A team of ten French investigators went to Cambodia to follow up on the case, however, and the conclusions they shared this month inspire little confidence in the original story.

Cambodian police had already decided that life had become too much for 42-year-old Frenchman Laurent Vallier, who they claimed had killed his four young children, before driving their bodies into a pond behind the family home where he drowned. That was supposed to be the end of the tragic matter, but his family and the French embassy in Phnom Penh were far from convinced.

For several weeks the French team carried out forensic tests at the site. They found that the driver’s door was open and the state of the car’s electrics was consistent with the vehicle having been pushed into the pond.

They also discovered that Cambodian police had failed to notice that Vallier’s skull was sitting in a suitcase in the back of his SUV.

The evidence was obviously inconsistent with murder-suicide and the focus has now shifted to his Khmer in-laws. Police initially thought there was nothing unusual about Vallier’s brother-in-law claiming ownership of land that Vallier, a widower, and his two sons and two daughters had lived on. His wife died during childbirth in 2009.

Police now say they believe three to five people were involved with the murders.

The French embassy tactfully said in a statement that the investigation “has led to breakthroughs which are now ruling out the possibility of suicide.”

This tragic case highlights a problematic trend, rooted in economics, which is widespread among Cambodia’s police, who are often accused of corruption and protecting the influential.

6 years after the murders, the French investigation continues with the family still seeking justice.