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Re: NEW ! Information on Work Permits.

Post by PSD-Kiwi » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:00 pm

thePeck wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:11 pm
Ya PSD, I don't foresee me working in the KoW but you never know. Plus if they do ever get around to visa changes, which have been talked about for years, we might be stuck in a technicality of having to pay.
Yea, I don't plan on working here either,and if I ever have to pay then that's something I'm prepared for. You'd think with all the new visa and extension of stay types that were introduced last year they would've created a marriage/spousal/family type visa!
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Post by BklynBoy » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:13 pm

How does the gov't make sure people get work permits? Do they randomly raid businesses and ask for permits? Do they put pressure on the businesses in other ways?
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Post by kiwiincambodia » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:45 pm

Can't speak for other companies but we get visited from time to time for an "inspection" and part of it is checking permits.
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Post by BklynBoy » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:04 pm

Kiwi-- thanks. Is this something I can bring up while interviewing? Who usually pays for this permit?? school? employee?
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Post by PSD-Kiwi » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:53 pm

BklynBoy wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:04 pm
Kiwi-- thanks. Is this something I can bring up while interviewing? Who usually pays for this permit?? school? employee?
Employers must ensure that they have applied for the foreign employee quota, and that all their employees are in possession of a valid WP, but it is not their responsibility to apply or pay for the employees WP.
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Post by kiwiincambodia » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:29 am

BklynBoy wrote:Kiwi-- thanks. Is this something I can bring up while interviewing? Who usually pays for this permit?? school? employee?
In my case all costs are incurred by the employer. However this may be up to the company, not sure on the actual law on this. I can only give my personal experience with the company I work for.

I have never spent my own money on WP or visa in the 10 years of being here. Everything is taken care of by the company I work for. All I need to do is make sure I give them my passport on time.
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Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:10 pm

More on work permits and the new one month extension:

- Foreigners employed in Cambodia who missed the March 31 deadline to register for a work permit have been given a remarkable reprieve by the Ministry of Labour and Vocational Training providing they submit their application this month, either at the Ministry, through an agent or via the new online system (www.fwcms.mlvt.gov.kh).

B2B reported yesterday on the one-month extension to the deadline on work permits announced by the Ministry. However, it has now been confirmed that foreigners registering for a work permit during the month of April can do so without having to make retroactive payments for all the years they have worked here without a valid work permit.

This news has understandably infuriated those who met the deadline and have already paid their retroactive fees, but it has delighted others who missed the deadline but have managed to take advantage of the new policy and avoid substantial charges, around $100 for each year employed in Cambodia.

Fines for late registrations of work permits (reportedly as high as $10 per day) will now come into effect from May 1 onwards. “The Ministry will strictly apply fines for owners and directors of enterprises who do not follow this law upon this announcement,” read an unofficial translation of the official Khmer-language document, dated on March 31 and signed by the Labour Minister.

With Khmer New Year coming up next week and the Ministry and its departments likely to be closed for several days, it may well be easier to apply online via the new website www.fwcms.mlvt.gov.kh, which was setup last September. Some online users have confirmed success via this method, while others have expressed difficulty.

For more details on work permits, which were previously issued as books but are now issued as cards, as well as employment cards, which are now books, for foreigners working in Cambodia, click here.
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Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:29 pm

From the 'click here' above:
For more details on work permits, which were previously issued as books but are now issued as cards, as well as employment cards, which are now books, for foreigners working in Cambodia, click here.

This was posted online the 25/11/2016, so it's not new, but may be of interest if you haven't already seen it.

Work Permits And Employment Cards For Foreigners In Cambodia
The Legal Framework

The Labour Law, adopted in 1997 and amended in 2007, is the overarching law governing employment relationships within the territory of Cambodia, regardless of the nationalities or residences of the parties to an employment agreement. Articles 261 and 262 of the Labour Law directly address work permit and employment card requirements relating to foreigners. Article 261 states “No foreigner can work unless he possesses a work permit and an employment card issued by the Ministry in charge of labour”. Foreign nationals wishing to work in Cambodia must also meet the following conditions:

a) have a job offer from an employer compliant with relevant regulations regarding employment of foreign nationals

b) have legally entered the Kingdom of Cambodia

c) possess a valid passport

d) possess a valid residency permit

e) be fit for the relevant job

f) have no contagious diseases

Under current practice, foreign nationals working or doing business in Cambodia and holding either an E visa (also known as a “business visa” or “ordinary visa”) or a K visa (also known as a “permanent visa”) are required to have a work permit and employment card.

What are Work Permits and Employment Cards?

This question is commonly asked by foreigners working in Cambodia, as many foreign employees have never laid eyes on either of these two documents. Given the recent crackdown by the labour and immigration authorities on non-compliance with the provisions of Articles 261 and 262 of the Labour Law, many foreign employees are anxious with respect to whether they and/or their employer are compliant with the Labour Law and the consequences of such non-compliance, as discussed below.

Prakas No. 352 issued by the Ministry of Labour and Vocational Training on 17 August 2016 has introduced the “Foreign Workers Centralised Management System” to manage the employment of foreign workers and work permits in Cambodia through an online system (www.fwcms.mlvt.gov.kh). The new system was implemented on 1 September 2016.

A work permit and an employment card are two separate documents, although they may both be requested in a single application submitted online.

The application for a work permit and employment card may be made at any time. However, a foreign employee quota approval, as discussed below, is required as one of several supporting documents to the issuance of a work permit and employment card to a foreign employee. Work permits and employment cards must be renewed annually before the end of March each year.

Foreign Employee Quota

Under the Labour Law, the total percentage of foreign workers employed by a given enterprise cannot exceed 10 percent of the overall staff. An application for a “foreign quota approval” from the Ministry of Labour must be submitted between 1 September and 30 November in each year preceding a year in which the aforementioned limit is exceeded.

We note that the Minister of Labour may approve a request for an exemption to the above-mentioned 10 percent limit, at his or her discretion, if the enterprise requires employees with specific skills which are currently unavailable in Cambodia.

Legal Responsibility and Sanctions


It is the responsibility of an employer to assist each of its foreign employees to request and secure a work permit and an employment card.

Under Cambodian law, both the employer and the employee are liable to be sanctioned for failing to comply with the abovementioned work permit and employment card requirements. In July 2014, a joint Prakas between the Ministry of Labour and the Ministry of Interior was issued to establish the Joint Inspection Team, whose purpose is to carry out inspections nationwide with respect to the compliance of enterprises employing foreigners. The Joint Inspection Team is comprised of officials from the General Department of Immigration and the General Department of Labour.

According to the Labour Law, an employer that hires a foreigner without an employment card may face the following sanctions for non-compliance:

an approximate fine of between $610 to $900 (noting that it is unclear whether this fine must be paid for each non-compliant individual staff member or applied as a single fine for all non-compliant staff)
imprisonment from between one to three months for subsequent non-compliance

We are not aware of any cases where the labour authorities have enforced the above sanctions against employers. Nonetheless, employees are not exonerated from personal responsibility. During an inspection by the Joint Inspection Team, an employee may face a fine of approximately $610 to $900 if the team finds that the foreign employee does not possess a valid work permit. Such a fine is made in accordance with the Joint Prakas on the fine for violations of labour law provisions dated 6 June 2016.

Finally, we note that a foreigner working in Cambodia without a valid work permit is, under Cambodian law, liable for deportation. While uncommon in practice, there have been limited cases where such action was taken by the authorities.

Retroactive Payments upon Application for a Work Permit and Employment Card


As a matter of current practice, at the time of an application for a foreign work permit and employment card, the Ministry of Labour will impose retroactive payments (tax fees) for each past year that the foreign individual is found to have undertaken employment in Cambodia without a valid work permit and employment card. We note that the existence of multiple business visas in an individual’s passport (in the absence of the individual ever holding a work permit or employee card) may be used to evidence non-compliance and a retroactive payment (tax fees) of approximately $100 will be imposed for each year that the individual is found to have been working without a valid work permit and employee card.

E Visa Extensions

It has come to our attention that, as a matter of practice, if a person attends the General Department of Immigration to extend his or her E visa and does not possess a valid work permit, the handling officer may caution him or her that his or her visa may not be extended the following time unless he or she possesses a valid a work permit and employment card. However, at present, we are not aware of any extensions being denied on this ground.

Preparing for Labour Inspections

Enterprises employing foreign staff that receive a visit by the Joint Inspection Team, should present the following documents:

declaration of personnel
declaration of movement of staff (history of employee hires and terminations)
registration of employment contracts for each foreign employee
foreign employee quota approval
valid passports and appropriate visas for each foreign employee
work permits and employment cards for each foreign employee, and entry-exit notations if applicable

We note that the foreign employees of an enterprise may be required to present themselves during a visit by the Joint Inspection Team.

Independent Contractors, Volunteers and the Unemployed


While the Labor Law does not specifically refer to independent contractors or freelancers as requiring a work permit and employment card, in practice, it is the position of the Ministry of Labour that such individuals are required to do so for the purposes of the Labour Law. The enforcement of work permit and employment card requirements with respect to retirees and volunteers, however, remains unclear. As noted above, given that the current enforcement focus of the authorities remains on E and K visa holders, it is possible that the immigration and/or labour authorities may require retirees or volunteers holding E visas to present work permits and employment cards. In such circumstances, a volunteer or retiree holding an E visa may attempt to convince the labor and/or immigration authorities that they do not fall under the scope of the Labour Law by evidencing that they are not employed or working in Cambodia despite holding an E visa.
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Re: NEW ! Information on Work Permits.

Post by Barang chgout » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:44 pm

So, I'm getting that I need one and now is the time to do it but I don't work and have no boss....

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Post by phuketrichard » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:07 pm

why not apply for a ER ( retirement) extension if ur not working..... so far there have been no requirements as to age or finances asked for?
One would think they would set it at 50 as thats what it is in Thailand...

PLUS, say u have a ER extension and u do work (in ur own restaurant/bar) not teaching or working for a company. what are the fines/ negatives if "caught"
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