Living on the east side could be good after they get a reliable river ferry service (like Bangkok), which links up to the skyrail city loop.

They would have been better off preserving the old Phnom Penh and building a new Phnom Penh south of the Bassac. But too late for that now.

Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:49 pm You guys are dreaming. The issue with thinking more bridges will solve anything is that it won't attract companies to move there, but rather just housing developments as the average person can't afford a house in the city anymore. The result will only be more traffic.

It's impossible to stop people to go where they want to go. Bridges, roads or not they will go no matter what

So it's always better to have more bridges, more roads, more different ways to go from one location to another

The people who can't afford to live in city center are also the people who serve the people who can afford to live and consume in city center. Talking about the employees of restaurants, bars, shops etc

Also all the administration buildings should be outskirt as a lot of civil servants are living outskirt already, it would ease a lot the traffic in the city. The civil servants are probably the ones who actually have a car too.

I live in Takmau and regularly come into town from HE Blvd. A flyover where that connects to the ring road 271 is way overdue. They need to construct it in a way that allows access to the Mohnivong bridge, or a left turn onto Mohnivong or Norodom. Phnom Penh needs all the roads and bridges they can build.

orussey98 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:06 pm

Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:49 pm You guys are dreaming. The issue with thinking more bridges will solve anything is that it won't attract companies to move there, but rather just housing developments as the average person can't afford a house in the city anymore. The result will only be more traffic.

It's impossible to stop people to go where they want to go. Bridges, roads or not they will go no matter what

So it's always better to have more bridges, more roads, more different ways to go from one location to another

The people who can't afford to live in city center are also the people who serve the people who can afford to live and consume in city center. Talking about the employees of restaurants, bars, shops etc

Also all the administration buildings should be outskirt as a lot of civil servants are living outskirt already, it would ease a lot the traffic in the city. The civil servants are probably the ones who actually have a car too.

Building bridges and roads just leads in more traffic jams. Phnom Penh is starting to look like a city in US with all the huge boreys and "satellite" cities dotted all around the city. Missing are only the huge motorways that cut through the city. All the efforts should put to enforcing the traffic law, which in my opinion would solve 90% of current congestions, public housing and building public transport system for the future. Proper integrated transport system where different lines and types interconnect to each other.

Cities and all the services that come with them were ment for people to live in them, but just like rats, cars have taken over as if they belong there. As long as there is a substandard public transport system and cars have a place to park in the city, eg, footpaths, then things will not improve and bridges will make no difference to make any improvement.

I am for all of the above. Phnom Penh should immediately begin working on a metro or skytrain. They should also build all the roads and bridges they can. They should also have a proper highway ring road or two, around the city.

One more lane bro...

Joking aside, the 60m flyover was always needed and I'm surprised (not really) that it wasn't built in the first place.

Tons of people already live in Arek Sak, there are tons of bored developments there already. Same for near Boeng Snao area. The issue is that the streets in the city itself are tiny and won't/can't be made larger, so more urban sprawl/commuting isn't the answer. More roads (and larger ones) and bridges have been shown time and time again to NOT lead to reduced congestion. This has been a fact for decades now, so it's a bit mind boggling that some people still think it would make for good urban planning here, especially when the urban quality of life in Phnom Penh has already deteriorated significantly.

Ofc public transportation would be the best I agree with that.

but some questions still :

can we stop people want to use their car?
Should cars be forbidden in some areas? (why not)

From the rivers to the 271 nothing is made for cars anyways.
Sen Sok is a bit better for that as Chroy Changvar , 60m we'll see

Should we also forbid condominium?
Condominiums increase the density of the population and people still want their car.

As I said in a previous message, a good start would be to move all the ministers outskirt.
It's the easiest and cheapest way for the government to tackle traffic jam.

In addition to a metro/skytrain, I would like to see elevated highways like in Bkk. I would also like to see some dedicated streets/paths for motos only. It would be great if you could build a moto only path along the riverside the complete length of Phnom Penh, and maybe build an East/West moto path as well. I would like to see trucks encouraged to travel at night, and all road work and sanitation done at night. Phnom Penh is not doing a terrible job with traffic, but they tend to do things half assed....like building flyovers with no ability to make a left turn, so you end up with traffic jammed up at two points by drivers making U-turns. Also, they are completing the hwy to Sihanoukville...which will be nearly obsolete the day it opens. That highway should be 4 lanes min. each way...not in total. People who do not want to build roads to ease traffic congestion are more interested in punishing people for driving then they are in easing traffic. California has tried this approach for decades, only to have some of the worst traffic in the country.