SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:55 am You seem to be an extremist when it comes to handing out death sentences, Raven.
You instantly recommended the death penalty for the elephant a few weeks ago.
You want to execute this attempted murderer. Even mid-rank primitive, USA, does not have the death penalty for attempted murder.
Yet you are preaching that Cambodia adopt this primitive practice. Another american preaching more killing in Cambodia.
Have you no memory? no shame?

You can see no alternatives other than death or anger management classes. Classic extremist binary thinking.
I do not enter into discussions with extremists, especially death penalty extremists. There is absolutely zero point.
- I simply call them out for what they do.

Death penalty
Primitive countries, by ranking.
CHINA thousands
IRAN 1,663
SAUDI ARABIA 423
IRAQ 256
UNITED STATES 220 (but not for attempted murder, Raven)
PAKISTAN 171
YEMEN 152
KOREA (NORTH 105
VIETNAM 58
LIBYA 39

Good company ?? for a practice that has been rejected by all of the civilised world.
Rejected - specifically, firmly, directly, repeatedly - by Cambodia.
So flock off with your extreme-end USA style death dealing recommendations for Cambodia.
It turns civilised peoples stomachs. As it has in the past.

I'm not a fan of the death penalty, even beyond reasonable doubt. But death for "attempted murder" is extreme in the extreme. Next we'll be sentenced to death for thinking that we'd like to kill someone An eye for an eye is one thing, but an eye for an attempted eye is something wholly different...

hunter8 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:17 am

Ravensnest wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:20 pm what do you propose should be done with this attempted murderer?

This is a special case because it’s committed against his own mother, so let her be the judge. What she says should be the punishment will be true because she brought him into this world. Solomon’s decision. Sometimes courts and official judges just don’t cut it.

sure, why not... he's not a risk to anyone else. that's a wise decision sir.

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:55 am You seem to be an extremist when it comes to handing out death sentences, Raven.
blah blah blah

Why are you getting so upset? I thought you were more intelligent than this. What have I done? expressed my opinion over things I have no control over. I'll talk like you here: Be a f'ing big boy. Can't you say what you believe without bashing anyone? instead of bashing people, try proposing ideas and being positive. slamming and bashing people does not solve anything. I said what I believe without bashing anyone, can't you? I'm sorry your life is so shitty you have to take your anger out on others. Maybe anger management would be great for you.


I've asked you multiple times now to state what you propose should be done for the would-be killer, but you have not. Only tantrums like a little boy. Now I don't care and I believe you're not intelligent enough to have an answer. You enjoy blowing off steam online- where nobody can beat your ass.

You are now bashing me about 2 things:
1. a killer elephant that killed someone in a 3rd world country that lacks resources to properly house the animal and keep other humans safe
2. A man who tried to kill his own mother with a meat cleaver.

I know you hate my country, USA. and you love to bash it EVERY chance you get. But are you truly so naive to believe that the death penalty is an American idea?

Do you not realize the death penalty has been the norm for humans for more than 20,000 years? What's wrong with you man, you are smarter than this.

Be a f'ing man, instead of bashing people, propose ideas. be positive.

Better believe it- I'm gonna slap any skeeter that bites me.

Yerg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:51 am

I'm not a fan of the death penalty, even beyond reasonable doubt. But death for "attempted murder" is extreme in the extreme. Next we'll be sentenced to death for thinking that we'd like to kill someone An eye for an eye is one thing, but an eye for an attempted eye is something wholly different...

this is true, it is extreme. but it's also a pretty extreme event to try and sever your mother's head with a meat cleaver, is it not

for me to comment here anymore is futile. I have my belief's and you have yours. Are any of us going to change the others? nope. Put your big boy pants on and deal with it.

lol

Attempted matricide. Should be forever disowned and banished.
I hope she survives.

Ravensnest wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:18 pm

Yerg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:51 am
I'm not a fan of the death penalty, even beyond reasonable doubt. But death for "attempted murder" is extreme in the extreme. Next we'll be sentenced to death for thinking that we'd like to kill someone An eye for an eye is one thing, but an eye for an attempted eye is something wholly different...

this is true, it is extreme. but it's also a pretty extreme event to try and sever your mother's head with a meat cleaver, is it not

True, a very nasty thing to do, which leads me to believe that there are more things at play than simply being scolded by his mother. Most importantly, I hope he's apprehended. We may be at opposing ends of the death penalty argument, but that doesn't mean we can't agree on the severity of his actions.

Funny how the 'civilized' world murders millions of babies every year and gives it a civil name...a choice..
More babies are killed by premeditation than any new virus coming from china....millions more...
And you all argue over a domestic issue?
You can't be stringing some guy up like a lynch mob.
A fair trial and a verdict are in order.
This man has human rights....unlike babies who have 0 rights.
Taking a cleaver to one's mother sure is a heinous act
I cannot see that execution is in order even if his mother dies...If she survives, it is an assault....not a capital offense.
I suspect the mother is wishing now she had made a choice 28+ years ago and killed her baby.
I am not sure why the USA was brought up in this discussion....This would be an assault with a deadly weapon...
It sure seems bizarre that such venom and hate would come out over this one domestic case.

BR549 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:42 pm Funny how the 'civilized' world murders millions of babies every year and gives it a civil name...a choice..
More babies are killed by premeditation than any new virus coming from china....millions more...
And you all argue over a domestic issue?
You can't be stringing some guy up like a lynch mob.
A fair trial and a verdict are in order.
This man has human rights....unlike babies who have 0 rights.
Taking a cleaver to one's mother sure is a heinous act
I cannot see that execution is in order even if his mother dies...If she survives, it is an assault....not a capital offense.
I suspect the mother is wishing now she had made a choice 28+ years ago and killed her baby.
I am not sure why the USA was brought up in this discussion....This would be an assault with a deadly weapon...
It sure seems bizarre that such venom and hate would come out over this one domestic case.

Off topic I think. Of course this woman didn't wish that her son was not born, she wishes that he didn't attack her . Don't bring abortion into this. That's like