More Chinese Takeover in Sihanoukville

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:13 pm

this spinach business is what i have been banging on abt in many threads ad nauseam
it was the big earner
now it is gone

AndyKK · Post by **AndyKK** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:34 pm

frank lee bent wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:13 pm this spinach business is what i have been banging on abt in many threads ad nauseam
it was the big earner
now it is gone

It's not gone. Only moved on to other provinces.

AndyKK · Post by **AndyKK** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:36 pm

Want to play Frank, come up here.

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:44 pm

they can't hide. china obviously has some sophisticated tcp/ip cops who can ID to mac level and chase the SIM cards using local allies.
see anyone walking in and out of those casinos other than employees?
no?
there is your answer to the china investment boom.
it is literally illegal ( in china ) for chinese companies to make foreign casino investments since august.
i have cited the ref repeatedly.
so, while the spinach employees are legal under cambodian law with visa and wp in order
china cyber cops ID them and revoke their passports
thus their tenure here becomes illegal
china cops notify local cops
because no passport.
hope i made it plain this time.

Barang chgout · Post by **Barang chgout** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:08 am

What ever happened to Toby and his henchmen? I thought the trial date was about 6 weeks ago. Heard nothing.....

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offroadscholar · Post by **offroadscholar** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:46 am

CEOCambodiaNews wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:49 pm
At present, there are 24 casinos and 14 clubs in Sihanoukville. Most of them are run by Chinese nationals and more are renting villas for online gambling which the industry calls them "spinach."
Since early 2016, Cambodian police have gathered forces to repeatedly conduct large-scale searches and repatriations of Chinese nationals residing in Sihanoukville. As a result, the number of "spinach" workers have dropped substantially. This has also caused huge losses to hotels and casinos in Sihanoukville.

Some hotel and casino owners have outspokenly stated that they may go bankrupt and thus hope that the government will protect Chinese investors who come to Sihanoukville preventing panic.

perhaps something lost in translation ?

If I understand it correctly, online gambling is legal under Cambodian law if its conducted in a bricks and mortar licensed Casino. If its done in a rented house, GH etc with no license, then its illegal under Cambodian law.

However, under China law, its illegal for offshore online gaming companies to target mainland Chinese. That seems to be overlooked here in Snooky as its only the unlicensed operations/scams that have been targeted by the Chinese/Khmer cyber cops. I havent heard of any workers in licensed casinos being busted.

The article states that licensed Casinos here are worried they could go bankrupt, somehow in relation to the spinach workers (from unlicensed operations) being busted.
How does that work ? Are they afraid the bad press from Spinach worker arrests will rub off on them, and mainland punters will give Snooky a miss for gambling holidays ?

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:59 am

they are working under licensed casinos, i am sure. legal here- online gambling is illegal in china and it does not matter where the casino is located. it is illegal for chinese citizens to participate, in the same way it is illegal for usa citizens to engage in bribery in any jurisdiction worldwide.

offroadscholar · Post by **offroadscholar** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:20 am

frank lee bent wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:59 am they are working under licensed casinos, i am sure. legal here- online gambling is illegal in china and it does not matter where the casino is located. it is illegal for chinese citizens to participate, in the same way it is illegal for usa citizens to engage in bribery in any jurisdiction worldwide.

OK, but so far its just scammers in unlicensed premises that have been arrested.
The cops haven't stormed any licensed premises yet. Therefore, I'm not sure what the article means about hotels/casinos here being worried they could go bankrupt.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:53 am

FB today

amazing if its true

Mark Hill‎
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Expats and Locals Living in Sihanoukville
1 hr · Sihanoukville, Cambodia ·

The bar owners Ocheteal beach said Chinese have taken over almost all the beach they all have to be out by Jan4. From after Two Easy seafood on down all will be gone.

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:15 pm

so far its just scammers in unlicensed premises that have been arrested

not according to what my gf translates from the morning tv news abt 3 days a week.
certainly not just SV either.

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