Username Taken wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:54 pm Gee, we seem to have quite a few wackos posting on this forum nowadays.

yes its the wacko who obviously alters the wording to my post that you gotta be aware of. over and out

"sorry but i dont answer legitimate question."

Imposter 555, this is your quote. Now that is wacko.

The best solution would be to wait a year or so, then there will be no fish anyway, so no fish ladders needed.

Anchor Moy,

To answer your question, nothing against fish. I'm pro-electricity and pro-middle class.

CRICKETS - LOTS OF CRICKETS
Fish we've got plenty of. Forests (still), swamps, mosquitoes and mud we've got plenty of too. Unskilled workers, plenty. Crickets, bad water in the countryside, ghosts and mines in remote areas, yes, we've got that, too.

QUEST FOR "FIRE"
What we don't have, I must declare, is much of a Khmer middle class. They require large factories, training/education for skilled labor and low costs to flourish. That means cheaper electricity. (Btw, Khmer for both fire and electricity is "plung." Hence the reference to the cave man movie, "Quest for Fire." I'm really only half-joking here.)

Without it, we are doomed to the 1960s, with intermittent power outages and less employment. Maybe this is a ploy from the KR days? Haha. Put everyone out to the farms and mosquitoes and mud? [ Only slightly sarcastic. ]

CLEAN HYDRO
You want Cambodia to move into the 20th century? Let them have electricity. Clean, sweet electricity. Grants they'll get for paying off the dams, no worries on the cost right now.

SOME DRAWBACKS
Yes, all major powers bit the bullet and followed their national agenda. Take these countries, for example:

- China on the Yangtze River with the Three Gorges Dam. 
- Russia on the Bratsk Resevoir on the Bratsk River (Siberia). 
- Egypt on Lake Nasser with their Aswan High Dam. 
- D.R. Congo on the Congo river at Inga Falls at the Inga 3 Dam.
- The U.S. with the Hoover Dam on Lake Mead on the Colorado River.

What're you going to do? Impede modernization? Deny cheaper electricity and factory jobs?

FISH FOR FARADS(?)
The fish are going to take a hit for a while. It may lose some species entirely (probably those requiring fast water), and take up to 20 years (!) to attain equilibrium for the surviving species.

So, the trade here is "Fish for Farads," for lack of a better alliteration. A farad is of course a measure of electrical capacitance equal to one coulomb of energy at a potential difference of 1V. Fish for electricity, basically.

I'd rather see Phnom Penh go from "Grey to Green" — decorate those grey buildings with oxygen-producing and dust filtering greenery, and get more electricity for these high-rises popping up like towering concrete monoliths. That's going to be a big electric load, one day.

Anyhow, there will be a hit to the fish, but Cambodia Is heading inexorably to the 20th century (no typo, haha). Finally.

SmartAston Martin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:25 pmQUEST FOR "FIRE"
What we don't have, I must declare, is much of a Khmer middle class.

You must be driving around in a parallel universe, I think.

Cambodia has a rapidly expanding middle class, probably one of the fastest-growing in the world.

"Rapidly expanding" is true, but can be misleading.

Don't you mean, "tiny, but multiplying quickly?"

I mean, to go from 2 middle class families to 100 is NO great feat.
But from 100 to 5000 families - that would be impressive.

By rapidly expanding, do you mean their diabetic tummies, haha?

Have you been outside the cities? Very little country middle class.

The number of families/individuals with new or recently-bought cars and motorcycles is largely responsible for many of the traffic problems

Where did these cars/motorcycles mysteriously come from?

Where did the thousands of occupied new apartments and numerous new full schools come from?

I've been outside the cities often, today in fact, and I see new ground being broken every day. Those people also have cars, motorcycles, new apartments and kids in non-state schools as well

Growing, clear to see, but minuscule compared to the hordes of country people still living in squalor in the provinces.

I mean, masses and masses of poor.

Would a country dam mean power, water and fish in the countryside? You could put a factory there with a dam!

You are welcome to come and look Sam. Plenty of money going on out here. Don't know about miniscule amounts, seems more like upper-middle class investment going fucking crazy...
But then again, I could be wrong. Often am.

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Ok, is this just outside of town, or what?

Rural areas are growing a bit (bigger corner gas stations, busier open air market areas), but that's all I see.

Just outside of town still growing. Sprawling metropolis, here we come!!

Btw, all those new businesses will all draw more electricity, putting more burden on an archaic power grid.

Build the darn dams! New and improved schools, hospitals and businesses require all that.

Fish stocks will recover. Eat more lentils! And tofu, or pork, or cashews or peanuts.

Just make sure the fish can and will recover in some way. Also, fish farms can relieve some pressure from the loss of habitat.

I'm sick and tired of the primitivity here. Shine some light on problems here, not take it away!

More Internet, more cameras, more visibility. You want "transparency?"

Arm the people with lights, cameras, and the Internet.

It's good we know the drawbacks first, however. But seriously, can Cambodia get out of the Dark Ages before you judge their society?