League table of foreign criminals in KoW

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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by prahocalypse now » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:28 pm

Hotdigr wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:21 pm
I would also be interested to know what % of the crimes they commit are against themselves. Reading the news it seems to be Chinese V Chinese mainly.
I'd guess the number of Chinese criminals is boosted by all those VOIP arrests, where they typically arrest dozens of people. I think those VOIP scams are targeting other Chinamen.
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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by Hotdigr » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:29 pm

Anchor Moy wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:25 pm
Hotdigr wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:21 pm
John Bingham wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:12 pm

That's a pretty good point. At the same time the general feeling expressed seemed to be that there were many mainlander Chinese here now and too many of them were running wild. That's an honest concern that locals and law enforcement are expressing. Hopefully they can reign it in and all will be well.
I agree mate. But a lot of it is perception. Are there more crimes committed by Chinese here right now? Undoubtedly. But as a % of visitors/expats here, not so much so. There are a lot more of them, so they are more visible. I would also be interested to know what % of the crimes they commit are against themselves. Reading the news it seems to be Chinese V Chinese mainly. A bit like the 1% biker gangs in the west - they don't usuually cause problems for clean skins unless you get yourself involved. Yet every Saturday paper is headlined with " Bandido's and Hells Angels etc, etc, etc"
Are you saying that you think Chinese criminality in Cambodia is ok if it only affects other Chinese ?
Not at all. Please don't put words into my mouth. Please read my comment carefully.
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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by John Bingham » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:37 pm

Anchor Moy wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:25 pm
Hotdigr wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:21 pm
John Bingham wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:12 pm

That's a pretty good point. At the same time the general feeling expressed seemed to be that there were many mainlander Chinese here now and too many of them were running wild. That's an honest concern that locals and law enforcement are expressing. Hopefully they can reign it in and all will be well.
I agree mate. But a lot of it is perception. Are there more crimes committed by Chinese here right now? Undoubtedly. But as a % of visitors/expats here, not so much so. There are a lot more of them, so they are more visible. I would also be interested to know what % of the crimes they commit are against themselves. Reading the news it seems to be Chinese V Chinese mainly. A bit like the 1% biker gangs in the west - they don't usually cause problems for clean skins unless you get yourself involved. Yet every Saturday paper is headlined with " Bandido's and Hells Angels etc, etc, etc"
Are you saying that you think Chinese criminality in Cambodia is ok if it only affects other Chinese ?
Also, I think perception is important - maybe more than the actual figures.
That's interesting. There have been Chinese communities in Ireland since the 50s at least, but in the early 2000s there was a sudden huge influx.The general perception remained the same, that if they were just Chinese vs Chinese and it didn't affect anyone else too much it was all fine. 8-)
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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by prahocalypse now » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:42 pm

Are Nigerians disproportionately represented in the crime stats because they commit more crimes?

Or is it because they get arrested for things white people or Asians wouldn't get arrested for? Such as being a walking ironing board.
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Post by Anchor Moy » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:55 pm

@HD It was a question.
Because, in my opinion, the Chinese on Chinese criminal acts have created a perception among many Cambodians that Sihanoukville has become a lawless Chinese town. So, the perception is important.
This is only my personal experience, but earlier this year I was traveling around Cambodia, and every single time I said to a Cambodian that I lived in Kompong Som, they would say "Oh those bloody Chinese. They are taking over. So violent and dangerous. " I kid you not. Even from Cambodians of Chinese origin. Whatever the 'truth', IME there's a widespread perception among Cambodians that Chinese criminals are taking over, and even more concerning, that all Chinese are criminals.
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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by sklmeera » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:48 am

So weed and prostitution are no longer legal activities in Cambodia ?
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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by davegorman » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:49 pm

There’s certainly a lot of hysteria in the English and Cambodian media about “lawless Sihanouk” but in reality it’s not that bad.

Interestingly my western friends were dining in a beer garden in SNV a few weeks ago with mostly Chinese there and a group of locals came in scanned the floor and left. Two of them stayed and spoke to my friends and said they should “Pay the bill and leave quickly my friend”, which is what they did.
Then all hell broke loose as the original group joined them and attacked the Chinese sitting in a big group.

One of them got caught up on the melee (he needed the toilet) but was ushered out by two Chinese guys who then went back in plastic chairs in hand!
My friend said it was like children’s fight at an Ikea store with chairs, tables flying everywhere.

They were not sure why they were “spared” but one of the Cambodian girls with them said neither group had issues with barang which I thought was odd. She said the locals like barang and the Chinese are weary of them. Who knows.
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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by fax » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:06 pm

davegorman wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:49 pm
it’s not that bad.

all hell broke loose

the original group joined them and attacked the Chinese

tables flying everywhere.

Yes. I am French.
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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by davegorman » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:01 pm

Very good. You can quote.
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Re: League table of foreign criminals in KoW

Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:11 pm

August 16, 2019
Police note decrease in foreigner crimes
Crimes involving foreigners in the Kingdom have dropped by nearly 4.6 percent in the second quarter of this year, according to a National Police report issued yesterday.

General Thong Lim, deputy chief of the National Police, yesterday said there were 84 criminal cases involving foreign nationals throughout April 20 until June 19 this year.

The figure shows a 4.54 percent decrease when compared to the same period last year, when there were 88 criminal cases involving foreign nationals.

“The National Police made 450 arrests, which consisted of 17 foreign nationals on 11 different offences,” he said. “The top perpetrators were Chinese nationals, followed by Vietnamese, Indians, South Koreans and Ukrainians.”

Gen Lim added that the highest number of foreigner crimes occurred in Preah Sihanouk and Svay Rieng provinces and in Phnom Penh.

Additionally, the report noted that 181 foreign nationals from 30 different countries were victims of a crime in the same period.

The number was recorded from a total of 161 cases, which was a decrease of 9.5 percent in the number of cases when compared to the same period last year, when 178 cases occurred that involved foreign victims.

It added that most foreign victims were Chinese nationals, followed by Vietnamese, French, English and US nationals.

Yong Kim Eng, People Centre for Development and Peace president, expressed uncertainty over the figures in the report.
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50634330/p ... er-crimes/
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