Well, this is interesting. Looks like some sharp online drug sellers are selling fresh/dried leaves of kratom out of Cambodia to the US.
Cambodia police stopped a shipment of 2 kilos of what looks like kratom leaves recently. They don't seem to be too sure if it's an illegal drug or not. Is it ?


It could also be oregano, but I don't think that grows in Cambodia.

not illegal yet, but with Sessions as AG its a comin

atkins, k wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:29 am not illegal yet, but with Sessions as AG its a comin

You are talking about the US, but what about elsewhere ? What about Cambodia for a start ? Is it legal or illegal ?
I wonder if they were acting on the behest of the US drug authorities in this case.

There are internet sites selling Cambodian kratom, which look like they are legal.

Green Cambodian - Organic Kratom
100% organic kratom powders and capsules. Green Cambodian kratom is harvested on our organic farms deep in the lush jungles of Cambodia.

Organic kratom farms ? Deep in the lush jungles of Cambodia ??? Lol. Sounds totally trendy.

Phnom Penh: On April 02 at 10 am, 2 Kg of dried leaves, due to be sent to Georgia USA by DHL delivery service, were confiscated by the police after it was found that the leaves contained 124kg of an addictive substance.

The Anti-drug department cooperated with head of national security of Ministry of Interior, along with a representative of DHL post, and the deputy prosecutor of Phnom Penh court, Mr. Seang Sok, to inspect the leaves to see if they contained an addictive substance. There were 7 cases of dried green leaves, packaged under the name EVER GREEN BAY LEAF. The packages were delivered by an unidentified man to the DHL office in Phnom Penh to send to Georgia State, USA.

After laboratory tests that revealed that the leaves did in fact contain an addictive substance, the police decided to confiscate the parcels according to the order of Samdech Kramam Sor Kheng, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Interior, and Mr. Saroeun, Commander of National Police.
The packages are being kept as evidence at DHL company office, awaiting decisions on appropriate legal action.

General Mackevili wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:24 pm I've tried that stuff in Ethiopia. Nasty as fuck.

I was wondering what it might be like, and apparently it grows wild all over the place. Are you sure you don't mean Khat? Kratom is a Southeast Asian plant. Anyway I think what might have happened here is they thought it was marijuana at first?

Nice packaging though!

I looked up Kratom though and it sounds terrible:

WIKI wrote:At relatively low doses (1–5 g of raw leaves) at which there are mostly stimulant effects, side effects include contracted pupils and blushing; adverse effects related to stimulation include anxiety and agitation, and opioid-related effects like itching, nausea, loss of appetite, and increased urination begin to appear. At moderate (5 to 15 g of raw leaves) doses and higher, at which opioid effects generally appear, additional adverse effects include tachycardia (increased stimulant effect) as well as the opioid side effects of constipation, dizziness, hypotension, dry mouth, and sweating. Frequent use of high doses of kratom may cause tremor, anorexia, weight loss, seizures, and psychosis. If heavy users try to stop using kratom, they may experience withdrawal symptoms including irritability, feelings of distress, nausea, hypertension, insomnia, runny nose, muscle and joint pain, and diarrhea.

I'm pretty sure I've seen those plants around but I didn't know what they were. I'm not about to go out and look for any, it sounds crap. Way back I used to know some Crusties. Some of them used to get Deadly Nightshade berries and squeeze the juice into their eyeballs. Some of them used to take Datura leaves too, that stuff fucks people's heads. Then some were the type of people would steal your Evo-Stik (impact adhesive) at your party and be found passed out in a stairwell soon after. They didn't give a fuck.

Mitragyna speciose
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragyna_speciosa

Article explaining kratom use. As is the case with most drugs, it's not all good and it's not all bad. It's all about how it's used.

Coming up easy
By: David Hutt - Posted on: October 3, 2014
Known as ‘herbal heroin’, a Southeast Asian leaf called kratom is being consumed by an increasing number of Westerners, while in its native land it is going through a renaissance as both a recreational drug and an aid to opiate withdrawal

With epithets such as ‘the legal heroin’ and ‘the heroin-like leaf’, and often sold alongside ‘legal highs’ such as synthetic cannabis and the hallucinogenic plant salvia, a certain Southeast Asian herb has propelled the media into a sensationalist tailspin.

“Heroin-like drug sold over the counter locally” ran the main story on an Ohio-based TV news channel in the US last year. A newspaper in the UK splashed the headline “Herbal remedy killed my son” over its front page, despite the fact anabolic steroids were said to have caused the individual’s death.

Despite the media frenzy, buyers expecting a serious buzz from kratom might be disappointed. Many consumers and health professionals agree that the herb’s effects are minimal – somewhere between knocking back a few espressos and popping too many prescription sleeping pills.

Kratom, the leaf of the Mitragyna speciosa tree, which comes from the same botanical family as coffee, has been consumed in Southeast Asia for centuries. Typically chewed or drunk by rural labourers as a tonic, kratom acts on the central nervous system as either a stimulant or depressant depending on the quantities and strains consumed. In Southeast Asia its legal status varies, but in most Western countries it is legal, readily available and growing in popularity...

http://sea-globe.com/coming-up-easy-kra ... sia-globe/