Journalism in Cambodia
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Let's spell it out then (because it's worth it):Username Taken wrote:Looks like Garry's gag went right over your head.Milord wrote:"journalistic ethics"Garry.Crabtree wrote:Good grief, what's an oxymoron again??
"press freedom"
Happy now?
good != grief
(or if you're a logician and not a programmer, good <> grief)
therefore
good + grief = oxymoron.
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if you want journos to expose some serious sh-it it will cost an arm and a leg, it can take weeks or months, it's basically a work of investigation and intelligence.
how much are you ready to pay to read articles that no publisher is willing to print for fear or getting a bullet in their heads ?
there's no money in the industry, nobody is going to risk his neck for a pittance, as it is now they can barely cover their production costs for the cheesy mainstream cr-ap published every day.
talking about scoops with a worldwide reach, do you think people like Snowden fled to russia just for the glory and to live pennyless hiding in a siberian hut ? think again ... he must be a millionaire now, having the time of his life in moscow with champagne and sexy russian hookers.
suppose there's a cambodian equivalent, somebody who worked in the government for decades and know all the shit going on, how much would he expect in exchange for his life turning upside down and to become a fugitive ?
how much you as a journo or as a publisher can pay for such an exclusive scoop and to guarantee his safety overseas ?
it's laughable that people expect the medias to be brave and fighting the windmills, no money no honey !
how much are you ready to pay to read articles that no publisher is willing to print for fear or getting a bullet in their heads ?
there's no money in the industry, nobody is going to risk his neck for a pittance, as it is now they can barely cover their production costs for the cheesy mainstream cr-ap published every day.
talking about scoops with a worldwide reach, do you think people like Snowden fled to russia just for the glory and to live pennyless hiding in a siberian hut ? think again ... he must be a millionaire now, having the time of his life in moscow with champagne and sexy russian hookers.
suppose there's a cambodian equivalent, somebody who worked in the government for decades and know all the shit going on, how much would he expect in exchange for his life turning upside down and to become a fugitive ?
how much you as a journo or as a publisher can pay for such an exclusive scoop and to guarantee his safety overseas ?
it's laughable that people expect the medias to be brave and fighting the windmills, no money no honey !
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I see very few brave journalists, many are pussies. You are probably one too. Kristie Lu stout, Amanpour a long with many pussies on BBC comfortably sitting at the headquarters and telling you news this and that. Even the reporters on the ground are pussies too..."this is Mike reporting from the Turkish border" that kind of resonate potty.
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i'm not a journo, thanks god.flying chicken wrote:I see very few brave journalists, many are pussies. You are probably one too. Kristie Lu stout, Amanpour a long with many pussies on BBC comfortably sitting at the headquarters and telling you news this and that. Even the reporters on the ground are pussies too..."this is Mike reporting from the Turkish border" that kind of resonate potty.
but having dealt with media companies in the past i know a thing or two about their social dynamics.
i can tell you all these journos on the field especially those reporting from war zones would sell their own mothers for a scoop.
but even if they do it must be a scoop with market potential inside what's allowed by the mainstream propaganda and that's the problem.
suppose they find evidence of awful cases of corruption in the US army, they will never get permission to be published or aired.
for instance, now it's no mistrey about the US using torture and waterboarding but this is kept very low profile and they denied it for many years.
ISIS is backed and created from the US and yet you won't be allowed to tell otherwise on BBC or CNN, maybe you can write some shit on your blog or on your FB/Twitter but only as long as it doesn't fuck up the whole sob story recounted over and over in the mainstream, or you will become a problem and you'll be no longer a member of the medias, actually they could even throw you in jail with the excuse of supporting terrorism or whatever other BS.
good luck expecting journos to tell you what's really going on, it's not in their interest and they would be fools.
i see people here linking Al Jazeera as if it was a TV channel with opposing views, it's 100% pro-american, even worse than FOX.
i mean they even tried to ban RT (russia today) from being viewed in the US, says it all about what they really mean for Freedom of Press and speech.
it's easy to call the journos "pussy" but matter of fact they're just employees obeying orders from their boss, no more no less.
if they don't they get fired and forgotten and also blacklisted from all western medias, no one is going to destroy their career just to tell or to write that Saddam and Gaddafi were victims of the US imperialism or that ISIS is an inside job to stir up another war by proxy.
give them a few million dollars, maybe they could try, but otherwise forget it.
the main function of mainstream journos is not just to embellish and distort their own propaganda but first and foremost to shut up and conceil what's really going on, that means what is NOT published or even openly discussed.
if a news is not published it doesn't exist.
and this is censorship and it's the biggest power at the hands of governments and medias.
you can read all about who's behind ISIS on the russian and chinese medias, but you need to seek these infos by yourself, and the average western bumbling idiot is not going to move a finger, they can't even spot Sirya on a map, let alone being interested about this whole mess.
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as for Cambodia : truth will never come out, only someone who has nothing to lose and a lot of money in his pockets could come forward and become a whistleblower or joining whatever group with interests in destroying cambodia's reputation.
total corruption is THE system in cambo and everyone living here can see it in action but it can't be discussed or printed apart rare cases, simple as that.
journos are dime a dozen here and publishers can be shut down if they become a problem, just as they do in thailand and elsewhere in south east asia, don't think cambo is a special case.
even the journo shot dead weeks ago was in fact getting bribes and blackmailing his victims, these guys are no saints, if there's no money involved you can forget about investigate journalism and his story is the living proof of this as indeed you risk a bullet on your head, now more and more journos will be afraid to cover similar corruption stories as they know that if shit happens there's no justice in cambodian courts.
total corruption is THE system in cambo and everyone living here can see it in action but it can't be discussed or printed apart rare cases, simple as that.
journos are dime a dozen here and publishers can be shut down if they become a problem, just as they do in thailand and elsewhere in south east asia, don't think cambo is a special case.
even the journo shot dead weeks ago was in fact getting bribes and blackmailing his victims, these guys are no saints, if there's no money involved you can forget about investigate journalism and his story is the living proof of this as indeed you risk a bullet on your head, now more and more journos will be afraid to cover similar corruption stories as they know that if shit happens there's no justice in cambodian courts.
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I think some has validity, however ..........
Have you seen and smelled that famous wood?
Do you know where it is being exported to?
Do you believe that not just police, but military personnel are involved directly?
No honey, no money .... price of bullet and trigger finger, corruption that is reverse psychology corruption and my only question is ........
How much for a press pass?
Have you seen and smelled that famous wood?
Do you know where it is being exported to?
Do you believe that not just police, but military personnel are involved directly?
No honey, no money .... price of bullet and trigger finger, corruption that is reverse psychology corruption and my only question is ........
How much for a press pass?
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I can agree this with statement. Though I have never work in this industry -- but I experienced a gun pointing to my temple at point blank, randomly! For exposing their shits . Obviously, it was not a pleasant experience. But it doesn't deter me -- though more cautious than before.Drifter wrote:
it's easy to call the journos "pussy" but matter of fact they're just employees obeying orders from their boss, no more no less..
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Perhaps a little time travel: http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/l ... m-flourish
And of course: http://www.ccj.com.kh/
But not to exclude: https://www.ifex.org/cambodia/2014/05/0 ... urnalists/
And of course: http://www.ccj.com.kh/
But not to exclude: https://www.ifex.org/cambodia/2014/05/0 ... urnalists/
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i don't understand why you guys put so much importance on journalists and the medias.
once you stop reading their shit they just cease to exist.
don't read newspapers and don't watch TV.
if you're glued to the mainstream you can only blame yourself, life goes on even without being updated on every irrilevant BS going on in cambo or abroad 24x7.
once you stop reading their shit they just cease to exist.
don't read newspapers and don't watch TV.
if you're glued to the mainstream you can only blame yourself, life goes on even without being updated on every irrilevant BS going on in cambo or abroad 24x7.
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