A Flock of Hornbills Show Up at Phumen Phnom Penh University

Samana Johann · Post by **Samana Johann** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:12 pm

Those living here on the mountain travelling daily over the valley to the Oral mountain are actualmy "much" bigger (wing span maybe 1.5-1.8, lengh 1m) and more colorfull, also a different horn, looking similar like this (althought horn seems here bigger and not split in two)

Raining season most above 500 till top, dry season coming down till near the foot but never enter deforested area aside of crossing over 500-2000m above.

Very noisy, like a helicopter, if landing right next. Guessing there are now about 20-30 left, decreasing, and good to see the visit of relatives as a kind of "cry for help"...

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:31 pm

That's a Great Hornbill, it's one of the species flying around the capital.

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:15 am

Hey Sammy J. Maybe yours are Wreathed Hornbills.
The 2nd most common species here after the Pied.
But i think your mind may be playing tricks when you estimate the size. Even Greats are not that big.
Understandable - everything looks bigger out there in the wilderness.

Note that wheezing in-out breath sound as it is flying in. (in the vid) That is actually the "creaking" of it wings as they flap.
When you are out in the bush that is the first indication that they are around. When free-flying that creaking beat is much louder and slower. Ehh Aww, Ehh Aww, like an unoiled donkey.
An ungainly mechanical bird some mad 18th century inventor came up with. That's how i see them.

(the wings in this vid would have been beating shorter and quicker as it was landing)

One of the big reasons i choose to stay alive - that sound.
You have a good eye for location, Sam. and for good company.

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:40 am

^^ vid
Gibbon calls in the background.
'Part of the local brass band these birds usually play in.
Good harmony in a cacophonic kind of way.

Hey, maybe the Phnom Penh Oknha really is trying to recreate an authentic Cardamom landscape in the big city...
(after all, he is a Koh Kong boy, we like that kind of thing)
He's got the the hornbills and the gibbons - now he just needs to plant out the jungle.

Samana Johann · Post by **Samana Johann** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 am

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:15 am Hey Sammy J. Maybe yours are Wreathed Hornbills....

Not mine, but "great hornbills", as dwelling long time in their habitat, one with many species hardly people here whould have ever seen, not to speak of living next each other, good householder.
Even single individuals (they get 50 years old), not to speak of tribes, live on places longer than humans. Once habitat and livelihood, marked, is destroyed, seeking elsewhere home, or become otherwise, some beings become corona variants and look for city lungs...

The picture of the OP and others from PP show another species. The big hornbills are very shy and it's hard to imagine that they would ever rest in PP. And there way of approach and beauty wouldn't leave then last long as well.

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:39 am

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:40 am ^^ vid
Gibbon calls in the background.
'Part of the local brass band these birds usually play in.
Good harmony in a cacophonic kind of way.

Hey, maybe the Phnom Penh Oknha really is trying to recreate an authentic Cardamom landscape in the big city...
(after all, he is a Koh Kong boy, we like that kind of thing)
He's got the the hornbills and the gibbons - now he just needs to plant out the jungle.

He's not from Koh Kong, the KT got the wrong Okhna. He's from Kampong Cham.

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:24 am

John Bingham wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:39 am
SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:40 am
the Phnom Penh Oknha
after all, he is a Koh Kong boy,

He's not from Koh Kong, the KT got the wrong Okhna. He's from Kampong Cham.

Thanks JB - i was wondering why i had not heard of the connection that Khmer Times claims.
(especially very glad to hear it is not our KK lad. I like and have great respect that family)

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:25 am

Samana Johann wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 am
Not mine, but "great hornbills", as dwelling long time in their habitat, one with many species hardly people here whould have ever seen, not to speak of living next each other, good householder.
Even single individuals (they get 50 years old), not to speak of tribes, live on places longer than humans. Once habitat and livelihood, marked, is destroyed, seeking elsewhere home, or become otherwise, some beings become corona variants and look for city lungs...

The picture of the OP and others from PP show another species. The big hornbills are very shy and it's hard to imagine that they would ever rest in PP. And there way of approach and beauty wouldn't leave then last long as well.

The OPs's and other pictures clearly show Great Hornbills and Wreathed Hornbills. I posted pictures of all the hornbills native here on the first page. If you believe they are some other species please let us know which one.

Samana Johann · Post by **Samana Johann** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:12 pm

John Bingham wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:25 am
Samana Johann wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 am
Not mine, but "great hornbills", as dwelling long time in their habitat, one with many species hardly people here whould have ever seen, not to speak of living next each other, good householder.
Even single individuals (they get 50 years old), not to speak of tribes, live on places longer than humans. Once habitat and livelihood, marked, is destroyed, seeking elsewhere home, or become otherwise, some beings become corona variants and look for city lungs...

The picture of the OP and others from PP show another species. The big hornbills are very shy and it's hard to imagine that they would ever rest in PP. And there way of approach and beauty wouldn't leave then last long as well.
The OPs's and other pictures clearly show Great Hornbills and Wreathed Hornbills. I posted pictures of all the hornbills native here on the first page. If you believe they are some other species please let us know which one.

Good John, not familiar with specification conventions, maybe the digital caught in PP are domested originared relatives or "Indian Great Hornbill". Sure those met in PP are far smaller and as one said here "merely ugly". Those great hornbills living here "originally", at Oral mountain, are looking like the wiki pic. posted.

hanno · Post by **hanno** » Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:59 pm

Samana Johann wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:12 pm
John Bingham wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:25 am
Samana Johann wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 am
Not mine, but "great hornbills", as dwelling long time in their habitat, one with many species hardly people here whould have ever seen, not to speak of living next each other, good householder.
Even single individuals (they get 50 years old), not to speak of tribes, live on places longer than humans. Once habitat and livelihood, marked, is destroyed, seeking elsewhere home, or become otherwise, some beings become corona variants and look for city lungs...

The picture of the OP and others from PP show another species. The big hornbills are very shy and it's hard to imagine that they would ever rest in PP. And there way of approach and beauty wouldn't leave then last long as well.
The OPs's and other pictures clearly show Great Hornbills and Wreathed Hornbills. I posted pictures of all the hornbills native here on the first page. If you believe they are some other species please let us know which one.
Good John, not familiar with specification conventions, maybe the digital caught in PP are domested originared relatives or "Indian Great Hornbill". Sure those met in PP are far smaller and as one said here "merely ugly". Those great hornbills living here "originally", at Oral mountain, are looking like the wiki pic. posted.

No, "Indian Great Hornbill" is not a separate species, just another name for Great Hornbill Buceros bicornis. And very unlikely for some Okhna to get Great Hornbills from India when he can get them from the forest he has just razed.

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