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Jamie_Lambo wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:54 am
timmydownawell wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:22 pm This review from Facebook:

Tae Kwon Ian First of all, I can't hear shit when they're talking. Most of the actors sounds like they're whispering... Being pretty calm(especially the father). The only clear script I could understand and hear was from the Khmer Rouge army(that's when I had to lower the volume down because some were yelling,lol). .

lol
he has a point about the talking not always being clear, the subtitles were also loosely translated to what they were actually saying at times
well they were whispering alot when they didn't want the kids to hear and speaking khmer, so who cares if you could hear them or not unless you speak khmer

The father was calm because he, at least understood, you dont fuck with a illiterate country kid with a gun, he knew his and his families ONLY chance of survival was to be subservient. I think he carried the part well
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phuketrichard wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:59 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:54 am
timmydownawell wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:22 pm This review from Facebook:

Tae Kwon Ian First of all, I can't hear shit when they're talking. Most of the actors sounds like they're whispering... Being pretty calm(especially the father). The only clear script I could understand and hear was from the Khmer Rouge army(that's when I had to lower the volume down because some were yelling,lol). .

lol
he has a point about the talking not always being clear, the subtitles were also loosely translated to what they were actually saying at times
well they were whispering alot when they didn't want the kids to hear and speaking khmer, so who cares if you could hear them or not unless you speak khmer

The father was calm because he, at least understood, you dont fuck with a illiterate country kid with a gun, he knew his and his families ONLY chance of survival was to be subservient. I think he carried the part well
Good points. It's not like they spent a huge budget on this production and someone accidentally turned down the voice track, it was of course intentional.
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John Bingham wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:26 pm
phuketrichard wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:59 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:54 am
timmydownawell wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:22 pm This review from Facebook:

Tae Kwon Ian First of all, I can't hear shit when they're talking. Most of the actors sounds like they're whispering... Being pretty calm(especially the father). The only clear script I could understand and hear was from the Khmer Rouge army(that's when I had to lower the volume down because some were yelling,lol). .

lol
he has a point about the talking not always being clear, the subtitles were also loosely translated to what they were actually saying at times
well they were whispering alot when they didn't want the kids to hear and speaking khmer, so who cares if you could hear them or not unless you speak khmer

The father was calm because he, at least understood, you dont fuck with a illiterate country kid with a gun, he knew his and his families ONLY chance of survival was to be subservient. I think he carried the part well
Good points. It's not like they spent a huge budget on this production and someone accidentally turned down the voice track, it was of course intentional.
Do you think no Cambodians will watch the film? It needs to be audible regardless of your audience.

People whisper/talk low in western movies but it's still audible to the audience so you know what the fuck is happening.

OTOH the low audio at times may have been due to a bad/poor downmix from DD5.1 to 2.0 or something by whoever ripped it.

Luckily I was relying on subtitles but a 25 second delay on the audio and subtitles from the video really didn't help.
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phuketrichard wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:59 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:54 am
timmydownawell wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:22 pm This review from Facebook:

Tae Kwon Ian First of all, I can't hear shit when they're talking. Most of the actors sounds like they're whispering... Being pretty calm(especially the father). The only clear script I could understand and hear was from the Khmer Rouge army(that's when I had to lower the volume down because some were yelling,lol). .

lol
he has a point about the talking not always being clear, the subtitles were also loosely translated to what they were actually saying at times
well they were whispering alot when they didn't want the kids to hear and speaking khmer, so who cares if you could hear them or not unless you speak khmer

The father was calm because he, at least understood, you dont fuck with a illiterate country kid with a gun, he knew his and his families ONLY chance of survival was to be subservient. I think he carried the part well
what you talking about, im not on about when they were whispering, i said a lot of the vocals wasnt all that clear, i dont need to rely on the subtitles,
i thought it might have been just because i was watching it through my laptop but seems it wasnt just me
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GF had no trouble understanding the dialogue ( except when they were whispering) :beer3:
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Oscars: Angelina Jolie’s ‘First They Killed My Father’ Named Cambodia’s Foreign Language Entry
UPDATE, writethru after Sunday 11:01 PM exclusive: Angelina Jolie’s First They Killed My Father has been set as the Cambodian submission for the Best Foreign Language Film Oscar. Deadline reported late Sunday night that confirmation of the selection was imminent, and early Monday morning the Cambodia Oscar Selection Committee made it official.

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The dialogue was always audible and perfectly understandable to me. Watched without subtitles.

Looking at the reactions of Khmer people, it is very sad to me the way that Jolie has abused her celebrity position to pull at people's heartstrings using sensitive emotional subject matter, pushing herself into hero status, whilst failing to make a film of authenticity or integrity - a film that was in her own words, wholly symbolic. Personally, I've come to confirm my own suspicions that this is an ignorant and exploitative vanity project of the first caliber. I'm quite dismayed, really. Hollywood is truly a scourge.
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guess it must have been from watching it through my laptop/speakers,
i usually prefer plugging headphones into my laptop when watching movies/series, because of the large speakers i use a lot of dialogue gets swamped with the background music etc
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I thought the book was crap compared to some of the others written about the era. And I still question the two million dead statistic. I believe that many more died in the US bombing than is admitted. And because the census was corrupted no one knew how many people there were before the war. Why was the census corrupted?
So local politicians could squeeze more money from the central government for goods and services. The numbers claimed to have been killed by the KR always reminds me of the body count in Vietnam, it was always bollocks.
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I thought the book was crap compared to some of the others written about the era.
come on, it was written by a non author on recollections of when she was 6-10 years old. I dont recall fuck all from when i was that age
what did u expect?? :beer3:
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