blablabla852 wrote:If you are very sorry for our loss,

Can you just do what we requested please? You dont need his ID card, you already found his facebook account. His mother doesn't want people to have access to his photos at all. We are contacting Google in trying to block out any searches related to David. So please just take it off.

Again, I am truly sorry for your loss, I really am. I also don't blame you for getting emotional on here.

We try very hard to follow Google's guidelines on protecting people's sensitive information, and in this case I think we have. They make it very clear not to post ID numbers or images of signatures. We have left those out.

Also, that's the hard part of reporting the news sometimes. Nobody wants to be in it.

blablabla852 wrote: Imagine your best friend passed away in somewhere alone and then suddenly some prick decided to take photos of him and post them online. And you found out by this way. Its horrendous!

I agree. Death is never a pleasant thing, and finding out or seeing images of the deceased is always unnerving.

Also, we don't send out newsletters or email people with these death threads. Anyone who finds this thread was actively looking for it. And again, we put all graphic images in SPOILERS so only people who actively agree to see such images are able to.

blablabla852 wrote: Fair, people will want to identify but they can do so via social network and not by you. A Cambodia Expats online forum.

Unfortunately that's just not true. You already said you looked for it online from other sources and couldn't find it. It actually is up to sites like Cambodia Exapts Online to report on this stuff. You just got finished saying you didn't find it posted anywhere in local news. That sadly shows that sites like CEO make such incidents more available to the public in the English speaking world. We found this story, along with the images in the news.

blablabla852 wrote: You are not even a established certified journalist not a news station. So they have no right to do post such sensitive photo of the deceased.

No, we are not an 'established certified journalist or a news station. That does not give us any less right to report on the news. Freedom of the press is probably the most highly protected freedom of speech, at least in the US, as it should be.

blablabla852 wrote:Also in other cambodian news paper, theres no news relating to him and if you have some evidence please share it. i would love to see it.

Ok, here is where it starts to get REALLY tricky.

You've already admitted the Cambodian newspapers are terrible, show horrific pictures, etc. However, you WANT to see it and want someone to share it with you (for whatever reason).

So, this just goes to show that you yourself are online actively looking for anything and everything on this story. Just as you might be interested in finding out as much as possible on this story, there are others who are doing the same thing. And again, you looked for cambodian news on it before and came up empty handed. CEO helps the English speaking world find information on stuff like this. Reality sucks sometimes, but it can't just be hidden because some people don't want to see it, or just don't want others to see it.

blablabla852 wrote:Of course we want to suppress this post, because of the ID card and the graphic photograph which i have mentioned so many bloody times but you dont seem to understand.

Again, I understand. All people want graphic news about their friends and family suppressed. I feel your pain, I do, but it is newsworthy, and I think it's important to make sure this information, hard to swallow or not, is out there.

We had photos of a deceased American police officer on here. It was terrible. The family and friends contacted us and wanted it removed, including part of his police ID badge. We just couldn't justify removing it. Google couldn't either.

One guy who was most vicious about it, went on to use the photo himself to come to conclusions about how he died, how long he had been dead, etc.... So, he essentially wanted to use the photo to understand the case better, but also wanted to complain that is shouldn't have been made public.

(They were not one of the groups that sent us cease and desist letters, as I think they, being involved with police, knew that they had no real claim for us to take down anything.)

blablabla852 wrote:I agree, some of my friends are already seeking legal advises. Hopefully we can at least block this article URL within Hong Kong's region. But we have friends and relatives in different countries which raises our concern. Sooner or later people will know, but we just wish that they dont have to suffer the shock and pain when they see the photos. I am going to leave it like this for now as i dont want to make a scene on here, i have said all we requested so if the person who posted this article read this. Please, take out the photo of David ID and the photo of his passing.

Again, I do apologize for not complying with your request, and it pains me. However, we just don't suppress the news or related images unless they really need to be (like in the case of being info that could feasibly be used for fraudulent purposes).

Anyways, death sucks. It rough for everyone effected. I get that. And I am very sorry we won't remove anything here.



All I can say is that we do our best to make sure no sensitive info is on here, and that everything we report on is as accurate it can be. Please feel more than welcome to say anything you want about the case here, and if you have any info you want to share publicly or privately to correct any details we got wrong, do so. In that case we would also go and edit anything we think is wrongly reported by us.

We often receive cease and desist letters, and we have yet to comply to any (there was one exception, but it was nothing like this and we also believe they were right, thus we complied). News stories are what we most strongly object to being 'suppressed,' as you put it.

Google is very specific about what they will 'delete,' and names, pictures, addresses, phone numbers, birthdays, are not among them.

However, ID numbers, bank account numbers, images of signatures are. Those were censored here.

More information straight from Google here:

https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2744324

They even have a link there where you can report links.

Just this week I had 2 families contact me directly about their deceased relatives that we had articles on here, both including heartbreaking images. Some news I hate, but it's still news and shouldn't be censored. Please remember that everyone who sees said images on CEO has read the spoiler, been warned of its graphic nature, and continued to click on it and view it. They needed help dealing with the Cambodian authorities, and finding the bodies of the deceased. I was fortunate enough to be able to greatly help them both, one more than the other.

If my relative died I'd also want to have all the images and for nobody else in the world to see them. However, just not how it works, and I know that it's better to have them out there.

Even the Western governments and news agencies release autopsies, live murders and other very graphic images to the public, and it's up to the individuals to seek them out and view them or not.

I don't believe that anything on this thread can be used for fraud of any sort either, as I already blurred out the ID number, etc, when we first uploaded it.

We also do our best to respect the dead on CEO, and have definitely deleted comments we deem to be inappropriate.

And since you asked, I will try to find the link to the Cambodian news site where this story first broke. I don't believe that anything in here can be used for fraud of any sort either, as I already blurred out the ID number, etc, when we first uploaded it. The link, unfortunately, does share sensitive info.

I guess I have to make a judgement call here, as I purposefully do NOT share such sensitive info, but, as a human, I have to decide that sharing it with YOU is probably for the best. Do you see the judgement calls I have to make? You yourself (who hasn't even identified themselves) would like me to share a link with you that includes his sensitive info.

If I followed your way of reasoning 100% there is no way I should share that info with you no matter what, correct? I would be passing off his sensitive info to a third party. I guess I will do it if a relative can privately send me your ID so I can be sure I'm helping someone out, as opposed to just handing over his details to a stranger on the internet.

So again, I wish you had faith that I do in fact take this stuff very seriously and it's a judgement call each and every time. I do my best to be as proper about it as possible, even when the calls are VERY UNPOPULAR. A lot of people depend on us to make good decisions on CEO, and not just our members. I believe we do a good job being fair and moral about reporting such horrific stories.

Sorry for your loss, and forgive me if I came off as a little rude, but that's not my intention and I apoligize again that I don't think it's the best idea to take down such images that even Google agrees is ok to have online.

Schrodinger's Dog wrote:I think it should be differenced between Bomber (who blew it up, has nothing to do with this at all and therefore his opinion is kinda unimportant) and blablabla who has a somehow legit request (my condolences, blablabla). Pretty sure the admins are capable of coming to a reasonable decision.

Sagen’s einmal. Was wollen Sie denn eigentlich Sie dumme, irrationale, geschmacklose Schleimsau ?

to Mackevilly. Couldn't be bothered to read all of your stuff, but if you are not willing to give in you stubborn donkey, I personally will take action.

Is this Bomber twat yet another Francis reincarnation? How many sock puppets does that loser have FFS?

There was a dead cop on here? LOL! Link, LINK!!! I need a new background picture.

Soi Dog wrote:Is this Bomber twat yet another Francis reincarnation? How many sock puppets does that loser have FFS?

I see ! YOU really DO suffer from paranoia. Idiot.

Bomber wrote:to Mackevilly. Couldn't be bothered to read all of your stuff, but if you are not willing to give in you stubborn donkey, I personally will take action.

Well, I wish you would at least read my post. I try to explain my position, and I'm sorry we can't please everyone.

Bomber wrote:to Mackevilly. Couldn't be bothered to read all of your stuff, but if you are not willing to give in you stubborn donkey, I personally will take action.

You will do nothing, Francis, you pathetic cock smoker. You are an impotent, annoying little boy with no friends and no life and you hide behind multiple sock puppets. Go fuck yourself. Idiot.

Why do you think Bomber is Francis? I have no opinion on the matter, just curious.

Listen sweetheart. Even chiefs like you should be able to realize if they have gone too far. This what you do at the moment is and will not be appreciated by the majority of the members on a long run. It'll come back to you. Before you were creating, NOW you are destroying. Think man !!!!