Curse of the dammed

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Curse of the dammed

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A little voodoo and effigy burning were the order of the day.
Cambodiadaily.com wrote:Villagers Call on Spirit to Curse Officials, Company Behind Dam

BY AUN PHEAP | MARCH 2, 2015

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Villagers in Stung Treng province displeased local authorities on Saturday by holding a traditional ceremony calling upon a powerful local spirit to curse those behind the construction of the Lower Sesan 2 dam.

During the ceremony, some 300 members of the Lao and Bunong ethnic minorities marched about 10 km to a shrine dedicated to the local deity Neak Ta Krahomkor, or “Red Neck Spirit,” in Sesan district’s Srekor commune, asking him to protect the villagers from harm and curse the officials and investors behind the dam.

“The villagers…prayed to the spirit of Neak Ta Krahormkor to use magic to stop the construction of the hydroelectric dam,” said Bun Thann, a program coordinator for the 3S River Protection Network, which has been campaigning against the dam.

His and other environmental groups say the 400-megawatt dam, which is being constructed on two tributaries of the Mekong River, will deplete fisheries and displace about 5,000 people living in the Mekong River basin.

After praying to the Neak Ta spirit, promising to sacrifice two buffalos for him if he stopped further construction of the dam, the villagers set up four effigies known as “ting moungs,” representing Mines and Energy Minister Suy Sem, construction company owner Chip Mong, Hydro Lancang company officials and local authorities who helped green-light the project.

“The villagers cursed all the people involved with the construction, saying they are going to die without being buried in the land,” Mr. Thann explained.

Vuth Khoeun, one of those who participated in the ceremony, said villagers ritually stabbed and burned the effigies, which were made of clothes stuffed with rice.

“We stabbed the ting moungs with a sharp stick, meaning that we killed the people involved with the construction of the hydroelectric dam, then we burned the bodies of those people,” he said.

Deputy provincial governor Doung Pov said he was not happy about the spectacle, and blamed villagers for failing to inform local authorities about the ritual cursing, as well as “violating the rights of investors.”

“I understand that it is a right of the villagers to celebrate a Buddhist ceremony, but they violated the rights of investors because they cursed them,” he said.

“We will find out who is…behind the villagers and then I will report to the upper levels,” he added.
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Red Neck Spirit? Is its name Jim-Bob or Bubba?
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Red Neck is the name of Neak Ta (Spirit). Beside Buddha, we still believe in nature spirit such as hill, trees, river, mountain... We believe the spirit looks after that place.
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Well, rednecks are good at cursing.
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prahkeitouj wrote:Red Neck is the name of Neak Ta (Spirit). Beside Buddha, we still believe in nature spirit such as hill, trees, river, mountain... We believe the spirit looks after that place.
Well, older Cambodian almost believe in everything especially superstition, that's why they don't allow younger Cambodians do anything they want lolzzz. i.e when they are sick they will not immediately go to see the doctor, but traditional healer who will just scam the money from them.
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Samouth wrote:
prahkeitouj wrote:Red Neck is the name of Neak Ta (Spirit). Beside Buddha, we still believe in nature spirit such as hill, trees, river, mountain... We believe the spirit looks after that place.
Well, older Cambodian almost believe in everything especially superstition, that's why they don't allow younger Cambodians do anything they want lolzzz. i.e when they are sick they will not immediately go to see the doctor, but traditional healer who will just scam the money from them.
You are right 50%! Sometimes I think doctors are also a kind of scammer! Lolzz
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Samouth wrote:
prahkeitouj wrote:Red Neck is the name of Neak Ta (Spirit). Beside Buddha, we still believe in nature spirit such as hill, trees, river, mountain... We believe the spirit looks after that place.
Well, older Cambodian almost believe in everything especially superstition, that's why they don't allow younger Cambodians do anything they want lolzzz. i.e when they are sick they will not immediately go to see the doctor, but traditional healer who will just scam the money from them.[/quote

Yeah, that's how it is where I live too, Sanouth. However, even though it's a scam, it's a cheaper one than many "real" doctors charge, so I think frequently it's a financial decision as well as, if not more so than a spiritual one. Also, in our village they will place a scarecrow at the entrance to scare away the evil spirit of dengue fever. No, I don't want my children to believe in this animism! I have trouble understanding why Cambodians always seem to revere and protect those practices in their culture that are ineffective and should be discarded.
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I don't think it is all Cambodians, but you live in rural Cambodia and most of the people you interact with aren't very educated. I think lack of education causes people to believe in superstition everywhere in the world. The more people learn, the more they can explain the world around them; this is why education is so important. I think this is true with religious people too; there's a reason most academics are agnostic or atheist. The more you learn, the harder it becomes to swallow stories or beliefs that require adherence to "faith" or "tradition" when you have the tools to understand things scientifically or rationally.
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MekongMouse wrote:I don't think it is all Cambodians, but you live in rural Cambodia and most of the people you interact with aren't very educated. I think lack of education causes people to believe in superstition everywhere in the world. The more people learn, the more they can explain the world around them; this is why education is so important. I think this is true with religious people too; there's a reason most academics are agnostic or atheist. The more you learn, the harder it becomes to swallow stories or beliefs that require adherence to "faith" or "tradition" when you have the tools to understand things scientifically or rationally.
I agree with your idea ! :thumb:
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MekongMouse wrote:I don't think it is all Cambodians, but you live in rural Cambodia and most of the people you interact with aren't very educated. I think lack of education causes people to believe in superstition everywhere in the world. The more people learn, the more they can explain the world around them; this is why education is so important. I think this is true with religious people too; there's a reason most academics are agnostic or atheist. The more you learn, the harder it becomes to swallow stories or beliefs that require adherence to "faith" or "tradition" when you have the tools to understand things scientifically or rationally.
Of course, you are correct Mekong Mouse, but please read my thoughts on rural education at
https://cambodiaexpatsonline.com/newswor ... t4119.html
It isn't just the old people in our village who buy into animism. I see no hope for this country. If I weren't so old and had no family responsibilities I would have left years ago.
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