Cintri Garbage Company to be Nationalized Says PM

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Re: Cintri Garbage Company to be Nationalized Says PM

Post by Doc67 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:39 am

atst wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:41 am
Doc67 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:53 am
Great Plan.

Because everyone knows that governments run industries are far more efficient and better organised than private sector entities. Governments have a brilliant track record of invention and innovation.

Things can only get better...
When has privatising anything made it better and cheaper, it always ends up with less service at a higher cost
You used to have to wait 6 weeks for a phone line in the UK courtesy of the Post Office.

BT was born but the same old useless ex General Post Office management had to be slowly weeded out. In the meantime, their huge advantage when they Launched BT Cellnet was lost through shoddy management lazily putting antenna on their old PO buildings thinking they were being smart.

Meanwhile Racal, (a radar maker amongst other things) went out and tested where they needed to place their antenna them for better service. As a result their system was far more reliable.

Cellnet had the worst performance due to their Motorola systems being untested for the UK. They tried to adapt the US system for the British system and it didn't works well with equipment having to be reprogrammed with tape. It was eventually hived off and rebranded as O2 and then bought out by Telephonica in 2005.

Racal's little upstart company was called Vodafone and now has a market cap of £43 billion.
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Re: Cintri Garbage Company to be Nationalized Says PM

Post by Duncan » Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:37 pm

Well you cannot sell off a company that is not working properly or not making a profit, so what better way is there than to Nationalize it , get it working and at-least try to make a profit, THEN sell it off .

I congratulate the PM for having ago at trying to fix a problem that has lasted way to long and has given PP / Cambodia a bad reputation if we are to believe things tourists say about the place.
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Post by frizzie77 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:51 pm

If Electricité du Cambodge is anything to go by, you know the nationalized garbage collection will only get worse.

Just saying...
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Post by Duncan » Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:26 am

frizzie77 wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:51 pm
If Electricité du Cambodge is anything to go by, you know the nationalized garbage collection will only get worse.

Just saying...
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It's morning as I walked around I suddenly rememberd what you said.
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Post by Duncan » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:02 pm

Long Kimmarita | The Phnom Penh Post
Publication date 17 December 2019 | 23:17 ICT

Come next year, Phnom Penh residents will no longer have waste collection fees included in their electricity bill, thanks to an online payment system.

A directive on changes to the payment system was signed by Phnom Penh municipal governor Khuong Sreng on Monday.

It said that to modernise public services and ensure everyone paid, waste collection fees could be settled online, at Acleda Bank Plc or through e-payment service providers.

Phnom Penh Municipal Hall also announced that the current waste collection rates would be retained as the basis of fee payments for rubbish and solid waste collection services.

It said waste collection company Cintri would be temporarily allowed to deal with the capital’s rubbish but would no longer be able to collect fees.

“As of January 1, until new rubbish management and solid waste systems are established and put into operation completely, Cintri (Cambodia) Ltd is temporarily allowed to collect and transport rubbish and solid waste. But the company is no longer entitled to collect service fees,” the directive said.

Sreng said while the move would take effect on January 1, customers would see the changes in the first 15 days of February. They will then have to pay their fees online, at Acleda Bank or through e-payment service providers such as e-Money, Ly Hour, Weiluy, Pi Pay, True Money and Dara Pay.

“Customers can also choose to pay their service fees in advance through the payment and deduction system, which will automatically show the outstanding balance every month.

“In the case of failure to pay the fees after 15 days from the end of each month, it will be regarded as debt and be the subject of fines according to the law, as well as other measures when necessary,” Sreng stressed.

The Phnom Penh municipal administration instructed customers who had paid for rubbish collection as part of their electricity bill to pay them based on the service fees levied in October. They would then just have to type in their ID code from the electricity bill.

For those who paid Cintri directly, they must no longer do so. Instead they must make payments to the Phnom Penh Waste Management Authority (PPWMA).

People who had never paid for waste collection would have to use the ID in their electricity bill to pay online or at the bank before January 1. They would have to base their payment on the last bill.

Prime Minister HE ended Cintri’s waste collection contract in October. The company had been the sole rubbish collector in the capital. Having ended the contract, the prime minister announced the removal of rubbish collection fees from the electricity bill.

He said doing so had caused difficulties for Phnom Penh residents.

Affiliated Network for Social Accountability executive director San Chey said the changes to the system would be a positive move if they made rubbish collection more efficient and easier.

However, he raised concerns that the Phnom Penh municipal administration would announce changes without tackling the problems in the capital’s waste collection system.

“The management of Phnom Penh will grow and progress if the municipal hall can make rubbish collection in the capital more efficient and easier.

“But if changes are made to the system without improving the attitude to waste collection or the managing and transporting of rubbish, no progress will be made,” Chey said.

He also urged the government to pay greater attention to providing waste collection services according to the needs of each household, with some producing more rubbish than others.

He said rubbish collection should be carried out at specific times and be done hygienically.
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Post by frizzie77 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:26 pm

Duncan wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:02 pm
Come next year, Phnom Penh residents will no longer have waste collection fees included in their electricity bill, thanks to an online payment system.
Read: "Garbage collection fees will rise, thanks to our shiny, modern, state-of-the-art online payment system, which turned out to be way more costly than the old method of fee collection."

BTW, 'nice' photos @Duncan!
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Post by Duncan » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:35 pm

frizzie77 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:26 pm
Duncan wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:02 pm
Come next year, Phnom Penh residents will no longer have waste collection fees included in their electricity bill, thanks to an online payment system.
Read: "Garbage collection fees will rise, thanks to our shiny, modern, state-of-the-art online payment system, which turned out to be way more costly than the old method of fee collection."

BTW, 'nice' photos @Duncan!
Dont talk a load of rubbish.
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Post by Phnom Poon » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:41 pm

Duncan wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:02 pm
“As of January 1, until new rubbish management and solid waste systems are established and put into operation completely, Cintri (Cambodia) Ltd is temporarily allowed to collect and transport rubbish and solid waste. But the company is no longer entitled to collect service fees,” the directive said.
'you're welcome to come to work, buy not to collect pay'?
what is the point of this?
the existing system works quite well all things considered
is trash going to just pile up after new year?
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Post by King Keil » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:41 pm

Does that mean payment will be state of the art but workers will still scratch the rubbish from the concrete with a shovel leaving behind bacteria and health hazards on the street.
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Post by King Keil » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:43 pm

Phnom Poon wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:41 pm
Duncan wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:02 pm
“As of January 1, until new rubbish management and solid waste systems are established and put into operation completely, Cintri (Cambodia) Ltd is temporarily allowed to collect and transport rubbish and solid waste. But the company is no longer entitled to collect service fees,” the directive said.
'you're welcome to come to work, buy not to collect pay'?
what is the point of this?
the existing system works quite well all things considered
is trash going to just pile up after new year?
Don't worry, the workers will be highly motivated.
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