Chinese Woman Flying From Cambodia Tests Positive for Coronavirus

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:53 am

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:46 am
Johnnywalker wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:24 am This is what I don’t understand. Multiple reports of people testing positive after leaving Cambodia. We’re they all short term visitors who were exposed before their trips? If not then the virus would likely be MUCH more prevalent here than the official numbers suggest. However if the numbers are that much higher then there should be signs of this in hospital cases and deaths. Something just doesn’t seem to add up.

Perhaps this is more evidence that the virus is much more prevalent and not as deadly as is currently known. I have seen some data that suggests this could be the case worldwide. Or maybe it’s being covered up though I find that hard to believe with the way rumors fly around here. Or maybe they really were just short term travellers who were exposed before their trip and are only just testing positive after their return. Any other possible explanations?

Yea, couldn't possibly be transferred to anyone through the air conditioning system while on the plane or ship. Notice how all / most of the reports are on people returning to their home country. Common denominator in all these is ?

According to the article she flew on the 24th and was tested on the 25th. Doesn't fit the typical timeline of contracting - incubation time - being ill.

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:00 am

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:53 am
Duncan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:46 am
Johnnywalker wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:24 am This is what I don’t understand. Multiple reports of people testing positive after leaving Cambodia. We’re they all short term visitors who were exposed before their trips? If not then the virus would likely be MUCH more prevalent here than the official numbers suggest. However if the numbers are that much higher then there should be signs of this in hospital cases and deaths. Something just doesn’t seem to add up.

Perhaps this is more evidence that the virus is much more prevalent and not as deadly as is currently known. I have seen some data that suggests this could be the case worldwide. Or maybe it’s being covered up though I find that hard to believe with the way rumors fly around here. Or maybe they really were just short term travellers who were exposed before their trip and are only just testing positive after their return. Any other possible explanations?

Yea, couldn't possibly be transferred to anyone through the air conditioning system while on the plane or ship. Notice how all / most of the reports are on people returning to their home country. Common denominator in all these is ?

According to the article she flew on the 24th and was tested on the 25th. Doesn't fit the typical timeline of contracting - incubation time - being ill.

What the article does not tell us is , Did she fly to Cambodia before that.

Post by **Username Taken** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:26 am

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:53 am
Duncan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:46 am Yea, couldn't possibly be transferred to anyone through the air conditioning system while on the plane or ship. Notice how all / most of the reports are on people returning to their home country. Common denominator in all these is ?
According to the article she flew on the 24th and was tested on the 25th. Doesn't fit the typical timeline of contracting - incubation time - being ill.

Doesn't it?

"Most estimates of the incubation period for COVID-19 range from 1-14 days, most commonly around five days."
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detai ... onaviruses

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:49 am

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:26 am
Kammekor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:53 am
Duncan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:46 am Yea, couldn't possibly be transferred to anyone through the air conditioning system while on the plane or ship. Notice how all / most of the reports are on people returning to their home country. Common denominator in all these is ?
According to the article she flew on the 24th and was tested on the 25th. Doesn't fit the typical timeline of contracting - incubation time - being ill.
Doesn't it?

"Most estimates of the incubation period for COVID-19 range from 1-14 days, most commonly around five days."
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detai ... onaviruses

No, it doesn’t. The mean incubation time is 5 days so 1 day (given she took a late afternoon flight it may have been even less than 24 hours) is exceptionally short. Not impossible, but also not the most likely option.

Of course it’s possible she took another flight a few days earlier but that’s also thin ice, just speculating.

Anyway, everyone on the flight is in quarantine I assume so if she contracted it on the flight there will be more cases soon.

hunter8 · Post by **hunter8** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:19 pm

Johnnywalker wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:24 am Perhaps this is more evidence that the virus is much more prevalent and not as deadly as is currently known. I have seen some data that suggests this could be the case worldwide.

I was saying weeks ago this virus had infected half the population already and is not so much more dangerous than a normal flu (normal flu also dangerous for old folks). Now we have medical scientists voicing the same opinions. Wait one more month while they run large scale antibody tests and we should get confirmation of this. In my trip to Pattaya in December i too had some sort of flu which may or may not have been this virus. And i would not be surprised at all to learn there is already herd immunity after it’s been spreading for months.

I was a little harsh in my previous posts suggesting that media intentionally spins this to create hysteria. Maybe this is not the case. The adage of “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity” may be better suited for this situation.

Arget · Post by **Arget** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:47 pm

With all the information and misinformation floating around we don't know who or what is corona related or what.
What we do know is that Italy has had unprecedented deaths over the last couple of weeks. I cannot find a definite reason for anyone claiming it is "just the flu" or not.
Never before has so many people died from a illness since the Spanish Flu of 1918.

If someone can prove what has caused these deaths , and also in Spain, and it is in fact the Corona virus why so many there but so few in China?

Any legitimate answers.???

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:53 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:49 am
Username Taken wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:26 am
Kammekor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:53 am
Duncan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:46 am Yea, couldn't possibly be transferred to anyone through the air conditioning system while on the plane or ship. Notice how all / most of the reports are on people returning to their home country. Common denominator in all these is ?
According to the article she flew on the 24th and was tested on the 25th. Doesn't fit the typical timeline of contracting - incubation time - being ill.
Doesn't it?

"Most estimates of the incubation period for COVID-19 range from 1-14 days, most commonly around five days."
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detai ... onaviruses
No, it doesn’t. The mean incubation time is 5 days so 1 day (given she took a late afternoon flight it may have been even less than 24 hours) is exceptionally short. Not impossible, but also not the most likely option.

Of course it’s possible she took another flight a few days earlier but that’s also thin ice, just speculating.

Anyway, everyone on the flight is in quarantine I assume so if she contracted it on the flight there will be more cases soon.

Well while we are speculating on how she arrived in Cambodia , and when, maybe it was by bus. An air-conditioned bus , and we all know how often the filters of them are cleaned along with the seats and everything else on a bus.

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:22 pm

ExPenhMan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:41 am For what it's worth, I believe the prevalence is far higher than anybody's records show. Just about every foreigner male I know from my condo and neighbourhood believe they have already had the virus. They reported having strange flus, with varying COVID19 symptoms, over the last four months here in Bangkok, some claiming "I never get sick." I also believe I had a mild case of it in November after a Pattaya trip.

#MassTestingNow

Ravensnest · Post by **Ravensnest** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:30 pm

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:51 am Agree with Duncan, these people aren't testing positive after leaving Cambodia, they are testing positive when they arrive elsewhere (after catching it on the plane).

I dont believe it would be possible to test positive 4 hours after contracting it.

It seems many do not get a fever.

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:44 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:28 am
Johnnywalker wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:24 am This is what I don’t understand. Multiple reports of people testing positive after leaving Cambodia. We’re they all short term visitors who were exposed before their trips? If not then the virus would likely be MUCH more prevalent here than the official numbers suggest. However if the numbers are that much higher then there should be signs of this in hospital cases and deaths. Something just doesn’t seem to add up.

Perhaps this is more evidence that the virus is much more prevalent and not as deadly as is currently known. I have seen some data that suggests this could be the case worldwide. Or maybe it’s being covered up though I find that hard to believe with the way rumors fly around here. Or maybe they really were just short term travellers who were exposed before their trip and are only just testing positive after their return. Any other possible explanations?
In the Netherlands it becomes clearer and clearer those having severe diseases are either old or overweight. Just heard an IC doc say ALL patients in his IC had the same (overweight) bodyshape.

In Cambodia most are young and obesity is not a major issue (yet). Maybe that's an explanation.

Cities and countries with proper mass transit systems are getting this the worst. From there it goes everywhere, and they are all connected to their airports.

Milan (metro goes half way to Bergamo,regional trains do the rest, plus Milan -Bergamo airport used by the low cost),
Madrid, huge,
Paris,
London,
New York.

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