tonetone420 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:01 am does anyone remember a Khmerican deportee ... the guy committed 1st degree murder, FYI.

No no no. Get with the CEO program. These poor lads are being deported by the evil USA for small petty crimes like buying a dime bag of grass or jaywalking. Got it?

Apparently deporting violent felons to their own home country is like Hitler or something.

Splitting up families, and leaving American children without a parent, often the father, is a great recipe for perpetuating violence in society, but carry on. I'm certainly not going to give lessons to the US or its citizens on how to spread violence.

Anyway, I hope these new guys n gals have fun in Cambodia. Welcome all. Just in time for Khmer New Year.

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:14 am Splitting up families, and leaving American children without a parent, often the father,

Yeah so sad.

It's not like they didn't leave own their children fatherless whilst serving a 3 to 10 stretch in Folsom for whatever thuggery they were up to. I'm sure those sporadic family visits through plexiglass were a real bonding experience for the sprogs.

I'm quite sure that if you or yours were at the receiving end of the violent felony that many of these lot were convicted of, you'd be singing a different tune.

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:14 am Splitting up families

These deportees are not US citizens. The families had the choice to apply for permanent residence and citizenship. They split themselves by either not doing so or only doing so for some of their members. Society can hardly be blamed for that.

fax wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:43 am

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:14 am Splitting up families

These deportees are not US citizens. The families had the choice to apply for permanent residence and citizenship. They split themselves by either not doing so or only doing so for some of their members. Society can hardly be blamed for that.

This right here the thing is they could have easily gotten away with it if they had stayed under the radar.

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:14 am Splitting up families, and leaving American children without a parent, often the father, is a great recipe for perpetuating violence in society, but carry on. I'm certainly not going to give lessons to the US or its citizens on how to spread violence.

Anyway, I hope these new guys n gals have fun in Cambodia. Welcome all. Just in time for Khmer New Year.

What perpetuates violence in society is letting these people run rampant, but I imagine they wont be getting into the same trouble as Cambodian prisons are much more unpleasant than American ones which will probably keep them at bay. That and the use of extrajudicial methods like mob beatings and the such.

Uncertain future for 43 deportees
Daphne Chen | Publication date 06 April 2018 | 07:40 ICT
By the time Nith* arrived in Wisconsin at the age of 5, he had escaped a genocide and lived in refugee camps in two different countries.

Over the next 40 years, he built a new life, earning a bachelor’s degree, opening a printer repair business, and raising two children. “I called America home,” Nith said. “I never thought about needing to become a citizen. I felt like I was a part of America. I never thought I would get in trouble.”

Then, in 2014, he was arrested and convicted of marijuana possession. Last year, US immigration officials came knocking at his door.

Nith, who asked to be referred to by a pseudonym out of concern that his status as a deportee could affect his job prospects, is among 43 Cambodian citizens who arrived on Thursday in the single largest group of US deportees to ever to be sent to Cambodia.
https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/ ... -deportees

BklynBoy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:17 am

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:09 am

taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:35 pm I hope to meet them. Do they have an established hangout in PP?

I hope you do meet them, in similar circumstances that their victims met them.

Tara-- ignore that person

I do ignore him. I 've met several through Bill Herod when he was working in Sen. Monorom with both the refugees and indigenous people and also met quite a few at a bar across the street from GSM a bit.

They really like to meet long term expats living in Cambodia. No, they're not the salt of the earth but I never met one who was as bitter as some posters on this thread.nor did I ever meet one who claimed he/she was framed.

They talk straight and while they have regrets or feel extremely sad there is no self pity. I found their company enjoyable. I'm not the preacher, but the over simplified explanations of why they engaged in criminal activities underlines the bourgeois fantasies uninformed posters weave around them and reveals the ignorance of middle class Americans who never walked in their shoes.

First and for all:
Gangs are a big problem, whether they are Cambodian, Negros, Irish, Maroc, Turk or what ever. It is a phenomena that has developed in decades and I don't have the solution for that. It must be a nightmare to live in a neighborhood dominated by gangs. Probably if the US did spend the same amount of money on developing the ghetto's and fighting the gangs as on the Gulf war, this problem might have been less. I am not a pacifist and was happy when Saddam was put out of power but just saying that the ghetto's in the USA aren't priority as much as they should be!

And about the comparison with Hitler:
I am not comparing Trump with Hitler, although I think they have similar bad ideas. I was referring to tonetone420 his quote:

They are worthless animals

and deportation is OK! No race or nationality is superior to another! You can like them or not, some or more developed than others, some have better values than others, but a human being is a human being! Hitlers whole ideology was based on racism and that was my comparison! Trump has similar ideas about Mexicans, Porto Ricons and Arabs!

So If a white gang boy have served his time in prison, he needs to be treated the same as a Cambodian gang member coming out of prison.

So if a Cambodia son of a refugee is deported to a country where he never has been, doesn't speak the language and without any resources that is for me a violation of human rights, where the USA like to teach others very much! O and I am a USA fan, just don't agree with this deportations! They are wrong, wrong for the person, wrong for the USA and very wrong for Cambodia.