Cambodian PM vows dual nationality ban for politicians
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And that's a statement that he's trying to split the vote isn't it?
Of course they did have a big effect on Cambodian politics by backing the KR. They became a huge military force again and continued the civil war for more than a decade. They also forced the PRK, which according to Strangio, only had about 5 communists in them, to take on a lot of the Khmer Rouge when forming the new government.The KR (PDK) areas, and there were many of them, were still being run like when they were in power before the Vietnamese invaded. But this time with US knowledge and support
Cambodian's haven't got a chance.
1. The French didn't educate the public.
2. Sihanouk didn't educate the public.
3. Lon Nol didn't educate the public.
4. HE et al don't educate the public.
IMO If they had education and could read Rainsy and the CNRP would lose that populist vote.
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/pm-n ... rs-104769/
Lol,“The CPP has decided on a stance to offer the opportunity for leaders of political parties who have one nationality or 10 nationalities to please come to the vote along with the CPP,” the prime minister said.
“We used to compete in the heavyweights. We are used to one nationality, but we also offer the opportunity for our citizens who have many nationalities to become leaders of political parties in Cambodia.”
Mr. HE added that he did not care whether Mr. Rainsy, who now has two separate warrants out for his arrest, returns to Cambodia, saying that the democratic process would continue either way.
“There are many parties in Cambodia. If there’s not two or three people, the election still proceeds.”
lol
And that's a statement that he's trying to split the vote isn't it?
Until 1990, the regime continued to hold Cambodia’s U.N. seat—in lieu of Mr. HE’s government—thanks to U.S.-Chinese support.After the ceremony, the U.S. Embassy in Phnom Penh congratulated Cambodia on the 37 years since the fall of the Khmer Rouge.
Yeah, like I'm really going to listen to those tossers. LTO's mates. Unbelievably audacious remarks seeing as they backed the DK and tried to whitewash what they had done for so many years. Supporting "one of the most unambiguously evil regimes in history" so that communist Vietnam (aka PRK/ SOC/CPP) wouldn't take over Cambodia. Working with their new friends the communist Chinese to do it! Of course they also didn't mind supporting Pol Pot because he wasn't really a communist but a despotic nut job. Seems to me like good ol American spite.“Cambodia’s Victory Day on January 7 marks the liberation of Phnom Penh from the Khmer Rouge, one of the most unambiguously evil regimes in history,” the U.S. Embassy said in a statement on its website.
Of course they did have a big effect on Cambodian politics by backing the KR. They became a huge military force again and continued the civil war for more than a decade. They also forced the PRK, which according to Strangio, only had about 5 communists in them, to take on a lot of the Khmer Rouge when forming the new government.The KR (PDK) areas, and there were many of them, were still being run like when they were in power before the Vietnamese invaded. But this time with US knowledge and support
If they hadn't had a need to form a communist party in the first place (unions, sick pay, holidays , health care etc etc) See The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist for what the bosses used to get away with before the labour movement in England“7 January 1979 is a military and political show organised by the Vietnamese. They say they came to liberate us from the Khmer Rouge. But if there were no communist Vietnamese in the first place there would be no Khmer Rouge either,” Mr. Rainsy wrote.
Cambodian's haven't got a chance.
1. The French didn't educate the public.
2. Sihanouk didn't educate the public.
3. Lon Nol didn't educate the public.
4. HE et al don't educate the public.
IMO If they had education and could read Rainsy and the CNRP would lose that populist vote.
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/pm-n ... rs-104769/
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Re: Cambodian PM vows dual nationality ban for politicians
Surprise, surprise, the PM took back the threat again (for like the 10th time.) No dual nationality restrictions.
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Yes, but what about that embassy bollocks.LTO wrote:Surprise, surprise, the PM took back the threat again (for like the 10th time.) No dual nationality restrictions.
I'd imagine any rich got out before the balloon went up and, as such, a lot of the rich and powerful have dual nationality. Although some probably have paid for it?
Does anyone remember that Canadian journo/ spy (not returnee) that was murdered at Angkor Wat? There was supposed to be some rich and powerful returnee Australian ex KR politician in Siem Reap mixed up with that.
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^^ Don't see how it relates to this thread though.
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What "embassy bollocks"? Do you mean how they seems to be out of sync with their man? Or are you saying that the KR wasn't "unambiguously evil"? Or what?juansweetpotato wrote:Yes, but what about that embassy bollocks.LTO wrote:Surprise, surprise, the PM took back the threat again (for like the 10th time.) No dual nationality restrictions.
Is there some connection here? I don't get it.juansweetpotato wrote:I'd imagine any rich got out before the balloon went up and, as such, a lot of the rich and powerful have dual nationality. Although some probably have paid for it?
Does anyone remember that Canadian journo/ spy (not returnee) that was murdered at Angkor Wat? There was supposed to be some rich and powerful returnee Australian ex KR politician in Siem Reap mixed up with that.
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Yeah, that's the one. Went for a stroll in the morning from his hotel and was found murdered at a very symbolic gate in the Angkor complex. The spy bit was something to do with the Canadian gov. I read the K440 thread and all the links in early 2014 and there was a definite suggestion that he was more than just a journalist. Interesting case that was not resolved to any satisfaction iirc. Cause of death = the trees stole his air.
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Out of sink with their man? which man? I am saying that it is pretty cheeky to support the KR then years later condemn them. Especially on the anniversary of the start of that support. I know same old hypocritical bullocks; say one thing, do another. Do the embassy represent the US gov or the US people?LTO wrote:What "embassy bollocks"? Do you mean how they seems to be out of sync with their man? Or are you saying that the KR wasn't "unambiguously evil"? Or what?juansweetpotato wrote:Yes, but what about that embassy bollocks.LTO wrote:Surprise, surprise, the PM took back the threat again (for like the 10th time.) No dual nationality restrictions.
juansweetpotato wrote:I'd imagine any rich got out before the balloon went up and, as such, a lot of the rich and powerful have dual nationality. Although some probably have paid for it?
Does anyone remember that Canadian journo/ spy (not returnee) that was murdered at Angkor Wat? There was supposed to be some rich and powerful returnee Australian ex KR politician in Siem Reap mixed up with that.
Yeah, bad example. Not sure why it came to mind. My point was more that there must be a lot of powerful dual nationality returnees in politics/ government. That guy in Siem Riep was an example of just how dodgey they can be sometimes. Wasn't he a brutal KR commander that got away to Australia, only to return years later to a position of authority in the CPP? I'm guessing you may have a lot better examples?Is there some connection here? I don't get it.
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Rainsy.juansweetpotato wrote:Out of sink with their man? which man?
Ah, hypocrisy. They both fought vigorously against the KR at one point and gave limited support to the out-of-power DK at another, so there is at least some hypocrisy, depending on which point in history you want to compare it to, though they didn't have much good to say of the KR even at the time they were 'supporting' them. Carter (too late) called them "the worst violators of human rights in the world today," and Brzezinski said, "we would have to hold our nose and accept its technical legitimacy." High politics. Interesting point about the 'start of that support', though it was also the point at which the KR they fought against fell. And hypocrisy wouldn't make what they said any less true. Rainsy OTOH seems to disagree about their evil, arguing instead that they were, at worst, put-upon dupes of the Vietnamese.juansweetpotato wrote:I am saying that it is pretty cheeky to support the KR then years later condemn them. Especially on the anniversary of the start of that support. I know same old hypocritical bullocks; say one thing, do another.
Same thing in a democracy.juansweetpotato wrote:Do the embassy represent the US gov or the US people?
Rainsy and a many more in the opposition parties. As I mentioned before, I figure there must be some CPP guys with dual citizenships, but I don't know of any for sure. I thought that may be the reason HS keeps backing down on this dual citizenship law.juansweetpotato wrote:Yeah, bad example. Not sure why it came to mind. My point was more that there must be a lot of powerful dual nationality returnees in politics/ government. That guy in Siem Riep was an example of just how dodgey they can be sometimes. Wasn't he a brutal KR commander that got away to Australia, only to return years later to a position of authority in the CPP? I'm guessing you may have a lot better examples?
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