A Cambodian Man Hangs Himself as He Was Upset for Being Poor

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Jamie_Lambo wrote:id be interested to know the comparasion of suiside rates in compared to the us/uk as there seems to be so many, but then again it doesnt get broadcast in the same way it does over here so im not sure how much more common it is or not, guess the thoughts of Samsara make their decision a bit easier i guess? :(

Media in other countries don't report suicides because reports of suicide lead to higher rates of suicide. We get these reports because CEOCambodiaNews has decided to not follow traditional journalist ethics.
Of course it will seem popular, but less than a dozen a week in a country of this size is really not that much.

Perhaps CEOCambodiaNews could have a personal discussion with itself and find out if these reportings should continue.
I don't get what you mean by this, the underlined bit. AFAIK nobody has committed suicide after reading CEO ?? :shock:

And also, what are "traditional journalist ethics" ? Not taking the piss, but words like phone-hacking, paparazzi, plagiarism and infotainment spring to mind.

As for western reporting of suicides: since there is a certain stigma attached to suicide, the exact cause of death is quite often not mentioned explicitly in news reports in order to spare the family. Sometimes it is described as an accident. I don't know whether this is ethical or not, but I don't see that the public has a "need to know" when it is a private matter.
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Jamie_Lambo wrote:i dont know why the bottom 7 countries with the least amount of suicides surprised me, with some of them countries with so much shit going on and some under sharia law i thought they would have had more suicides tbh
Religious sin probably. No 70 virgins etc if you kill yourself.
Anchor Moy wrote:I don't get what you mean by this, the underlined bit. AFAIK nobody has committed suicide after reading CEO ?? :shock:
May it never happen.
Anchor Moy wrote:And also, what are "traditional journalist ethics" ? Not taking the piss, but words like phone-hacking, paparazzi, plagiarism and infotainment spring to mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalis ... _standards

People went to jail and newspapers were closed down as a result of the Murdoch phone hacking scandals. Paparazzis are not journalists, they are freelance photographers that tabloids (not newspapers) buy pictures from. Plagiarism is called out and shamed when spotted and infotainment is not journalism.
Anchor Moy wrote:As for western reporting of suicides: since there is a certain stigma attached to suicide, the exact cause of death is quite often not mentioned explicitly in news reports in order to spare the family. Sometimes it is described as an accident. I don't know whether this is ethical or not, but I don't see that the public has a "need to know" when it is a private matter.
Could just read what I linked earlier.
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Jamie_Lambo wrote:163 Iraq 1.7 166 1.2 132 2.1
166 Jamaica 1.2 165 1.8 164 0.7
167 Oman 1.0 166 1.2 166 0.6
168 Lebanon 0.9 166 1.2 166 0.6
168 Kuwait 0.9 169 1.0 163 0.8
170 Syria 0.4 170 0.7 170 0.2
170 Saudi Arabia
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i dont know why the bottom 7 countries with the least amount of suicides surprised me, with some of them countries with so much shit going on and some under sharia law i thought they would have had more suicides tbh
It's how a death is registered that matters. In those countries (excluding Jamaica - which I have no experience of)... suicide is the equivalent of the Catholic "mortal sin". So an overdose would be more likely to be reported as accidental (and a suicide note discarded) and so on... place little faith in league tables where reporting is based on how a country tallies up stuff. All of them cheat at one thing or another.
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I've read the wiki-links. They mention the lack of national codes and the concern that journalistic standards are being ignored.

For example, the US has no regulations on reporting suicide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_s ... _reporting
Journalism codes
While many countries do not have national codes, media outlets still often have in-house guidelines along similar lines. In the United States there are no industrywide standards and a survey of inhouse guides of 16 US daily newspapers showed that only three mentioned the word suicide and none gave guidelines about publishing the method of suicide. Craig Branson, online director of the American Society of News Editors (ASNE), has been quoted as saying, "Industry codes are very generic and totally voluntary. Most ethical decisions are left to individual editors at individual papers. The industry would fight any attempt to create more specific rules or standards, and editors would no doubt ignore them."[23]...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalis ... regulation
Ethics and standards in practice
Main articles: journalism scandals, media bias, media ethics and yellow journalism

As with other ethical codes, there is a perennial concern that the standards of journalism are being ignored. One of the most controversial issues in modern reporting is media bias, particularly on political issues, but also with regard to cultural and other issues. Sensationalism is also a common complaint. Minor factual errors are also extremely common, as almost anyone who is familiar with the subject of a particular report will quickly realize...
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When I worked as a journalist there were young people committing suicide every second week but we weren't allowed to report on it.
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lol, i read all news on CEO and i ain't going to kill myself after reading this news.

Actually there is an interesting belief related to the suicide by hanging. i will write about it soon.
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Samouth wrote:Actually there is an interesting belief related to the suicide by hanging. i will write about it soon.
Blue moon?
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rozzieoz wrote:When I worked as a journalist there were young people committing suicide every second week but we weren't allowed to report on it.
Did that apply only to "young people" or suicides in general ?
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BOFH wrote:
Samouth wrote:Actually there is an interesting belief related to the suicide by hanging. i will write about it soon.
Blue moon?
It is really interesting. It has to do more with superstition. Many Cambodians don't believe that people hung themselves, because they were upset or depressed. Stay tune. The article will come out soon haha.
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Anchor Moy wrote:
rozzieoz wrote:When I worked as a journalist there were young people committing suicide every second week but we weren't allowed to report on it.
Did that apply only to "young people" or suicides in general ?
Suicides in general. But we (myself and other journos) felt we could help the youth suicide rate in particular through making people aware, but we were not allowed. Very frustrating.
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