Cambodia portrayed as "hell" by international media

TheGrinchSR · Post by **TheGrinchSR** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:09 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Samouth wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:
Jamie_Lambo wrote:maybe hell for a silver spoon tourist? or the modern day flashpacker,
im not overlooking the fact that there is a hell of a lot of poverty/people that earn peanuts and corruption, but one thing i love about the khmer people is that they are so well adapted and just get on with shit, get a standard western person to live a week/month as a poorer end khmer and they'd probably top them sen
A lot of people have no concept of what living in hell would be like. I would think being a Yazidi in an area under Isis control would be about there or thereabouts. Cambodia's not easy but then again nowhere is but with "Western advantages" at your command - Cambodia can only really be hell if you put yourself there. Try being a Khmer sleeping in a $20 space in a packed room with wafer thin walls and worrying that all your meager possessions will be nicked during the night and it might be hell but sipping 50 cent Angkors and worrying about the price of pineapples doesn't even come close.
I was living in a 50 usa dollar per month room when i was at the college. It was so hard as the room is so small and i have got so many stuff. Everything including kitchen and restroom are in one single room. However imagine those factory workers who have to share a tiny room together.
driving past them factories on the outskirts of the pig penh around 4-6pm it always blows my mind, the vast scale, the sheer numbers of girls working in them factories, getting piled into them wagons to be taken back to the villages, its tough, theres nothing like that in the UK no british woman would go through that for $80-170 per month!

Today? No. But for centuries British women went through something very similar. It may not have been formal indentured servitude but life in the mill towns and garment industries of the UK was once very much the same as life for many is now in Cambodia. In the days of the poor house in England (not so long gone - there are photographs inside these places) people who were too poor to get a bed for the night could pay for a "penny hang" which basically involved standing up tied to a rope running through the room with perhaps a dozen other people attached to each rope and 3-4 ropes to a room and sleeping on your feet... those are the "good old days" that politicians back home are so fond of.

TheGrinchSR · Post by **TheGrinchSR** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:12 pm

Samouth wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:
Jamie_Lambo wrote:maybe hell for a silver spoon tourist? or the modern day flashpacker,
im not overlooking the fact that there is a hell of a lot of poverty/people that earn peanuts and corruption, but one thing i love about the khmer people is that they are so well adapted and just get on with shit, get a standard western person to live a week/month as a poorer end khmer and they'd probably top them sen
A lot of people have no concept of what living in hell would be like. I would think being a Yazidi in an area under Isis control would be about there or thereabouts. Cambodia's not easy but then again nowhere is but with "Western advantages" at your command - Cambodia can only really be hell if you put yourself there. Try being a Khmer sleeping in a $20 space in a packed room with wafer thin walls and worrying that all your meager possessions will be nicked during the night and it might be hell but sipping 50 cent Angkors and worrying about the price of pineapples doesn't even come close.
I was living in a 50 usa dollar per month room when i was at the college. It was so hard as the room is so small and i have got so many stuff. Everything including kitchen and restroom are in one single room. However imagine those factory workers who have to share a tiny room together.

Yes, indeed. I have Khmer friends who live in what I would consider impossible circumstances and comparatively to many here - they're very lucky. I've seen the state of housing in many parts of the country here... it barely qualifies as housing at all and those people have nothing, absolutely nothing by any standard.

juansweetpotato · Post by **juansweetpotato** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:15 pm

I think people maybe forgetting that it is not about tourists or expats but Cambodians. The PM doesn't care about us. Sorry to those that think otherwise. Also, people seem to be forgetting that those factory workers are some of the lucky ones.

I have lived in a 50$ room, but mine didn't have anything in it. I know life at both ends of the scale here.
If you took the western toilets away you would see the expat and tourist population cut by more than double. :stir:

Never has the phrase ' build it and they will come' been more appropriate.

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:16 pm

That Veng Sreng Boulevard is a hell hole.

juansweetpotato · Post by **juansweetpotato** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:20 pm

John Bingham wrote:That Veng Sreng Boulevard is a hell hole.

What is it with you and Veng Sreng? Any pics?

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:25 pm

TheGrinchSR wrote:
Samouth wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:
Jamie_Lambo wrote:maybe hell for a silver spoon tourist? or the modern day flashpacker,
im not overlooking the fact that there is a hell of a lot of poverty/people that earn peanuts and corruption, but one thing i love about the khmer people is that they are so well adapted and just get on with shit, get a standard western person to live a week/month as a poorer end khmer and they'd probably top them sen
A lot of people have no concept of what living in hell would be like. I would think being a Yazidi in an area under Isis control would be about there or thereabouts. Cambodia's not easy but then again nowhere is but with "Western advantages" at your command - Cambodia can only really be hell if you put yourself there. Try being a Khmer sleeping in a $20 space in a packed room with wafer thin walls and worrying that all your meager possessions will be nicked during the night and it might be hell but sipping 50 cent Angkors and worrying about the price of pineapples doesn't even come close.
I was living in a 50 usa dollar per month room when i was at the college. It was so hard as the room is so small and i have got so many stuff. Everything including kitchen and restroom are in one single room. However imagine those factory workers who have to share a tiny room together.
Yes, indeed. I have Khmer friends who live in what I would consider impossible circumstances and comparatively to many here - they're very lucky. I've seen the state of housing in many parts of the country here... it barely qualifies as housing at all and those people have nothing, absolutely nothing by any standard.

ive got friends who live here in $30 a night rooms, ive crashed round them on numerous drunken occasions basically just a mattress, a stove, bucket shower and a squat toilet... ive also got friends who live in the more shanty tin shacks where its about the size of a garden shed and the toilet is the tree outside, loads of areas like these just a stones throw away from the golden lions but most people wouldnt even know they existed

John Bingham · Post by **John Bingham** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:35 pm

juansweetpotato wrote:
John Bingham wrote:That Veng Sreng Boulevard is a hell hole.
What is it with you and Veng Sreng? Any pics?

It's just a long stretch of factories and newish apartment blocks. Each apartment balcony seems to have 20 people hanging off it. There are people everywhere. There are plenty of worse neighbourhoods, that place is just crazy because there are so many people everywhere.

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:05 pm

Samouth wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:
Jamie_Lambo wrote:maybe hell for a silver spoon tourist? or the modern day flashpacker,
im not overlooking the fact that there is a hell of a lot of poverty/people that earn peanuts and corruption, but one thing i love about the khmer people is that they are so well adapted and just get on with shit, get a standard western person to live a week/month as a poorer end khmer and they'd probably top them sen
A lot of people have no concept of what living in hell would be like. I would think being a Yazidi in an area under Isis control would be about there or thereabouts. Cambodia's not easy but then again nowhere is but with "Western advantages" at your command - Cambodia can only really be hell if you put yourself there. Try being a Khmer sleeping in a $20 space in a packed room with wafer thin walls and worrying that all your meager possessions will be nicked during the night and it might be hell but sipping 50 cent Angkors and worrying about the price of pineapples doesn't even come close.
I was living in a 50 usa dollar per month room when i was at the college. It was so hard as the room is so small and i have got so many stuff. Everything including kitchen and restroom are in one single room.

However imagine those factory workers who have to share a tiny room together.

I would work in a factory for free,, if I could share a tiny room with some of those factory workers.

TheGrinchSR · Post by **TheGrinchSR** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:44 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:
Samouth wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:
Jamie_Lambo wrote:maybe hell for a silver spoon tourist? or the modern day flashpacker,
im not overlooking the fact that there is a hell of a lot of poverty/people that earn peanuts and corruption, but one thing i love about the khmer people is that they are so well adapted and just get on with shit, get a standard western person to live a week/month as a poorer end khmer and they'd probably top them sen
A lot of people have no concept of what living in hell would be like. I would think being a Yazidi in an area under Isis control would be about there or thereabouts. Cambodia's not easy but then again nowhere is but with "Western advantages" at your command - Cambodia can only really be hell if you put yourself there. Try being a Khmer sleeping in a $20 space in a packed room with wafer thin walls and worrying that all your meager possessions will be nicked during the night and it might be hell but sipping 50 cent Angkors and worrying about the price of pineapples doesn't even come close.
I was living in a 50 usa dollar per month room when i was at the college. It was so hard as the room is so small and i have got so many stuff. Everything including kitchen and restroom are in one single room. However imagine those factory workers who have to share a tiny room together.
Yes, indeed. I have Khmer friends who live in what I would consider impossible circumstances and comparatively to many here - they're very lucky. I've seen the state of housing in many parts of the country here... it barely qualifies as housing at all and those people have nothing, absolutely nothing by any standard.
ive got friends who live here in $30 a night rooms, ive crashed round them on numerous drunken occasions basically just a mattress, a stove, bucket shower and a squat toilet... ive also got friends who live in the more shanty tin shacks where its about the size of a garden shed and the toilet is the tree outside, loads of areas like these just a stones throw away from the golden lions but most people wouldnt even know they existed

Surely even in Snookie you can do better for $30 a night than a mattress, stove, bucket shower and squat toilet?

$30 a month surely?

juansweetpotato · Post by **juansweetpotato** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:12 am

TheGrinchSR wrote:
Surely even in Snookie you can do better for $30 a night than a mattress, stove, bucket shower and squat toilet? $30 a month surely?

Half it, half it

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