British Tourist Marc Davey Dies in WalkAbout, Phnom Penh
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Re: British Tourist Marc Davey Dies in WalkAbout, Phnom Penh
Leeds wrote:There needs to be more information for these unsupecting tourists who go to phnom phen and ends up been sold HEROIN in place of a relatively harmless party drug COCAINE. So many tourists have died of this now with still no information been put in front of them. Marc had died just 27 years old and left a loving family and friends behind, he wouldent of dreamed about touching anything if he new what was been given.
This needs to stop now, there needs to be information at the boarders, airports and hotels to stop more mother having to burry there own sons!!!
Very sorry for everyone's loss regarding Marc.Leeds wrote:Yes it's easy to say common sense, and there stupid but does that mean more people have to die. The heroin that is sold is exactly the same look as cocaine. Obviously you shouldn't buy it in the first place but people still do, that doesn't mean the problem should be forgot because it's there mistake. It's not hard to have a leaflet given when you enter the country warning about different scams. Why should more people die when it can be prevented with giving information.
A few things...
While I totally agree with MM about them not being the same, it would be an easy mistake to make, especially when likely already drunk, and especially if it was mixed.
If it was half and half, I'm not even sure it would fail most people's coke-taste-test.
I recently went on vacation with a guy to a random country. "He" bought a few bags of coke with no problems.
The last bag was "something" else. He realized it late night when drunk. We inspected it. Ruled out coke for sure.
We decided it was most likely ecstasy. That was good enough for him to go ahead and do it! I called him an idiot, and he passed that night.
I refused to touch it at this point. The next night he went ahead and did it. We both still thought it was ecstasy afterwards. But the fuck if I was going to touch it, not really knowing what it was! ! !
I seriously don't see Cambodia warning people at the airport to be careful when they buy coke because it could be heroin. That would tarnish their flawless reputation.
Therefore I just hope these cases get as much publicity as possible back in their respective countries. It really is a problem and if people are aware of it, less likely to make this mistake.
Anyways, it's a terrible loss and I just hope a few more people are aware of the dangers here when purchasing illicit materials in Cambodia, or anywhere really. It does seem that Marc had already traveled all over the world, so glad to see he lived it up when he had the chance!
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"This heroin"? You mean the bag that Marc had? If so, did they test the bag to confirm exactly what it was?Leeds wrote:Also I saw this heroin and I've seen cocaine 100s of times so let me tell you it does look exactly the same.
And I agree, the more information available about these cases to people visiting Cambodia the better.
Anything else helpful about the case that you can share?
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You were there ?Leeds wrote:
Also I saw this heroin and I've seen cocaine 100s of times so let me tell you it does look exactly the same.
That's shit. Believe me when I say I'm sorry about your friend.
But also, that street drugs are never automatically harmless, anywhere. You always take your chances.
Furthermore, I'm afraid that any well-meaning drug information campaign involving the authorities here will just get more people locked up. If you embarrass the authorities enough, they will come down hard on foreigner/tourist drug users first -there will be more extortion etc - I don't think that was what you had in mind ?
(Put bluntly, thanks but no thanks really.)
If you want to spread the good word, then maybe put it out on travel websites and blogs, so travelers can decide for themselves.
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I think contacting your department of state or whoever deals with travel guidance is the best option, but expecting anything to change in Cambodia is expecting a miracle. But again, all this information is already out there. You can't force people to look.
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This was a warning about drugs from a Cambodian telecommunications company that was sent to everyone via SMS today:
"Using illicit drugs will cause acts of violence and crime!"
They could have added, "and be careful when you buy coke that it's not heroin."
"Using illicit drugs will cause acts of violence and crime!"
They could have added, "and be careful when you buy coke that it's not heroin."
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Re: British Tourist Marc Davey Dies in WalkAbout, Phnom Penh
I got tha SMS too.
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" It's easy to say common sense " - Correct, and it's even easier to exercise it without someone having to wipe your arse for you.Leeds wrote:Yes it's easy to say common sense, and there stupid but does that mean more people have to die. The heroin that is sold is exactly the same look as cocaine. Obviously you shouldn't buy it in the first place but people still do, that doesn't mean the problem should be forgot because it's there mistake. It's not hard to have a leaflet given when you enter the country warning about different scams. Why should more people die when it can be prevented with giving information.
" It's not hard to have a leaflet given when you enter the country warning about different scams " - It's not hard for an educated Westerner to understand what's illegal in the country they are visiting and avoid doing it in the first place.
The last thing Cambodia should have to do is give advice on what illegal activity is safe to participate in, adults need to take personal responsibility for their actions and perhaps think about potential consequences on their family and loved ones should it go wrong. This isn't nanny state Britain.
I realise your post to some extent recognises that. We're all different and are free to indulge in whatever we want to do and live by the consequences, personally I find it hard to understand when you come to a place as unique as Cambodia with so much to see and soak in, the first thing someone feels the need to do is score some drugs to have a good time. Each to their own.
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Re: British Tourist Marc Davey Dies in WalkAbout, Phnom Penh
Spot on with that post there MM, and your post also CowboyMekongMouse wrote: As for information, a quick Google search will reveal an abundance of information. Cambodia is not a developed country. They don't have the resources to start a mass education campaign, but if you do your research, there is information out there. People who travel to undeveloped countries need to be willing to do their own research. Handing everyone leaflets as they enter the country because some people aren't responsible travelers seems like an overreaction and reinforces the idea that people aren't responsible for their own actions.
Imagine the size of a pamphlet informing tourists of the scams and dangers they may encounter whilst in Cambodia...it'd be more like a book!
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Re: British Tourist Marc Davey Dies in WalkAbout, Phnom Penh
Leeds, am I correct in assuming you are from the UK?Leeds wrote:Well I will be writing to my embassy and pushing other places for something to be done as I personally do think information will help and it won't cost much to hand out a leaflet. Mass campaign is not what I said. Also I saw this heroin and I've seen cocaine 100s of times so let me tell you it does look exactly the same.
In which case, don't hold your breath for a reply, judging by their actions re people in need of assistance recently.
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Re: British Tourist Marc Davey Dies in WalkAbout, Phnom Penh
its a sad loss with him being the same age as me,
but play with fire you will get burnt
not worth the risk over here
but play with fire you will get burnt
not worth the risk over here
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