British Drug User Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh, Cambodia; Dean William McWilliams Hospitalized

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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by phuketrichard » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:42 pm

LTO wrote:
CJM555 wrote:
LTO wrote:
Air lines wrote:I sent the link where is the proof that he has been acquitted and the General mackevili still does not change the false information in the title. Need criminal record, he was acquitted?
I must agree.

A link to a reputable newspaper has been provided that clearly states that he was acquitted of all charges related "smuggling." ("Last year he was acquitted of drugs possession with intent to supply and possessing criminal property.") The outlet that reported the acquittal is at least as reputable as the one that reported the arrest 3 years ago. A mod has even cited it as the source of other info. If we believe the newspaper report that he was arrested for 'smuggling' at one point, I can see no reason to doubt the report that he has been acquitted.

Hale is not an "alleged" smuggler or "accused" of smuggling. He may once have been years ago, but as he has been acquitted, he is not an alleged or accused smuggler anymore. It is false to say that he is. Nor is he charged with smuggling. The most that can be said in relation to the smuggling charge, (if anything need be said at all,) is that he "once was" or "had been" arrested and charged with smuggling related offenses, but to be fair and honest about it, it should be added that he was later acquitted of those charges. (In fact the tenses [ie had been] almost requires a follow up with the current state or result [ie acquitted]). Or perhaps even better, give the dead guy a break and not mention the 'smuggling' arrest/acquittal at all, and leave it at what his broken hearted mother said in the article, which is current and indisputably relevant to his current state: "It was morphine tablets that Martin had taken and caused a heart attack. Martin did take drugs, yes." He was a drug user, and, unfortunately, he died of it.

Condolences to the Mom, family and friends.
I respect your view but disagree particularly with regard to the noted mention of 'accused' and insistence this can or should be rescinded.
Factually this is not possible as the accusation stands, however the accusation was not subsequently founded.
The referenced article does note a charge of a controlled substance which was retained 'on the books'.
It could be a party involved in the smuggling scheme assisted the authorities with their enquiries.
The accusation does not stand. He was acquitted. Do yuou know what that phrase means? It means that the accusation has not been resolved. But it has been resolved. He was acquitted of all smuggling related charges.

No charge or accusation of smuggling remains on the books. The article states;

Last year he was acquitted of drugs possession with intent to supply and possessing criminal property.

A charge of possession of a controlled drug was kept on the books.


Possession is not smuggling. To leave the OP as is is libelous.
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wanna bet nothing changes,

CEO news is ONLY after sensationalism reporting
whose going to read a report about an accused drug smuggler found innocent?

Just like main newspapers, first page ARTICLE retracted on page 35 in small font

PLUS how does one know it was an overdose?? ( no autopsy ) could have been bad drugs
just cause one dies from drugs does not always mean it was an overdose.
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:22 pm

Hello,
The man is dead now, and all discussions on his previous history as an "accused" drug trafficker, whether for or against, are just bumping the thread up and not helping his past internet history. Whatever his past, the guy is dead and everyone should move on.
phuketrichard wrote: CEO news is ONLY after sensationalism reporting
whose going to read a report about an accused drug smuggler found innocent?

Just like main newspapers, first page ARTICLE retracted on page 35 in small font

PLUS how does one know it was an overdose?? ( no autopsy ) could have been bad drugs
just cause one dies from drugs does not always mean it was an overdose.

I think the story here is that Martin was found dead, presumably of a drug overdose or from bad drugs, but as you well know there will never be an autopsy, so the family will never know exactly what happened. The man had previously been associated with drugs and drug traffickers, so presumably knew something about the dangers of taking them. That doesn't make it better for those who knew him, and I don't think that defending the past accusations will make the family feel better about his death either.
Enough. RIP and leave them to mourn.
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by John Bingham » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:49 pm

So what is being put forward here is that he might not have died from an overdose of "good drugs" but that it was "bad drugs" that did it. Not from an overdose or anything, just out of pure badness. Makes a lot of sense. :?

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Bad drugs? Is that a medical term? Thought not.
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Post by jaynewcastle » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:14 pm

Seems to be a lot of reports people dying from drugs at the minute

Any chance that people will start to realise that it may not be a good idea ?, or is it just natures way of culling ?
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by LTO » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:10 am

CEOCambodiaNews wrote:Hello,
The man is dead now, and all discussions on his previous history as an "accused" drug trafficker, whether for or against, are just bumping the thread up and not helping his past internet history. Whatever his past, the guy is dead and everyone should move on.
He is not an accused drug trafficker. He was accused at one point but was cleared of that accusation. The falsity in the OP should be corrected and the thread should be bumped to help clear up the unfortunate smearing of this man's name by the original poster. It is only in the power of the original poster to do that.
CEOCambodiaNews wrote:...The man had previous history with drugs and drug trafficking, so presumably knew something about the dangers of taking them.
He does not have a history with drug trafficking. He was accused of it at one point by the police and later cleared of that accusation by a court of law.
CEOCambodiaNews wrote:I think the story here is that Martin was found dead, presumably of a drug overdose or from bad drugs, but as you well know there will never be an autopsy, so the family will never know exactly what happened.
I agree, that is the story here. But when the original poster posted inaccurate/incomplete and damaging information about the man, and then refused to correct that error when presented with the complete information from a verifiable source, the original poster made it about something more. The original poster should correct their error, to help clear up the mistake and return the focus to the important and relevant part of the story that you mention.

It's bad enough to scandalize a man who can no longer defend himself for...for I don't know what. At least Belfast Live made the effort to get their reporting right. I do not understand why the original poster is letting this false information stand.
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Re: RE: Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Ho

Post by General Mackevili » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:36 am

Air lines wrote:Where are you general mackevili you fucking twat ?
Bali right now! Thanks for asking. :)

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Possession is not smuggling. To leave the OP as is is libelous.
Actually, one thing is FACT:

It is NOT libel. He is deceased. You could legally say he is a convicted drug smuggler and it's still NOT libel. Just an FYI...
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wanna bet nothing changes,

CEO news is ONLY after sensationalism reporting
whose going to read a report about an accused drug smuggler found innocent?

PLUS how does one know it was an overdose?? ( no autopsy ) could have been bad drugs
just cause one dies from drugs does not always mean it was an overdose.
Oh Richard, LoL. You are so often laughable.

The article has been edited several times to be as precise as possible, and the title was updated about a day ago while I was in an airport, so you're already WRONG about your claims yet again.

I am still waiting for the legal documents, which I said I'd base a better opinion about and remove it completely from the title, which still hasn't been produced.

And I have a feeling that that article just took whoever's word for it. At least one of the articles quoted stuff directly from CEO that is nowhere else to be quoted from, and they say it like it's fact.

Go bitch at them them while you're at it. Surely they will find it just as riveting.

We do our best to publish as accurate info as we can. You've been shown to be wrong so many times on here it's hardly even worth my while to reply to you when you make such stupid points like "I bet they won't change anything" when it's already gone through several editions on here. :FACEPALM:

This is also coming from someone who says they have no interest reading about deaths of foreigners because of even more flawed logic that I don't even want to get into again, LoL! ! !

So again, of his family cares so much about it, they can send us the legal documents making it's super clear and I'll gladly take anything regarding smuggling out of the title (no doubt you will still have a mouthful of silly accusations).

If I was the sensitive type, maybe I'd say your accusations against us are libel, LoL! Jeeeeeeeez....
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by phuketrichard » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:06 am

John Bingham wrote:So what is being put forward here is that he might not have died from an overdose of "good drugs" but that it was "bad drugs" that did it. Not from an overdose or anything, just out of pure badness. Makes a lot of sense. :?

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Bad drugs? Is that a medical term? Thought not.
John , u don't know shit about drugs
overdoes means u took to much...
u dont need to take to much IF they were bad drugs ( ie a bad cut on something) or used in combination with drinking OK??>
i have had friends die of drugs and they DIDN'T OD (OVERDOSE)

You could take acid, have a bad trip and have a seizure
What did u die of?
Bad drugs?
overdose?
Seizure?

Heart Stopped?
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by willyhilly » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:53 am

Only one thing is sure, he is dead. It's time people wised up and stopped taking dangerous drugs, whats wrong with beer and a joint?
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Post by bolueeleh » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:03 am

better still, beer and pokey pokey
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Re: Accused British Drug Smuggler Martin Stephen Hale Dies of Overdose in Phnom Penh; Dean William McWilliams Hospitaliz

Post by John Bingham » Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:13 pm

phuketrichard wrote:
Bad drugs?

You're making a moral judgment about chemical substances. That's very scientific, you're obviously an expert on the topic. :tard:
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