Car of Beautiful Online Seller Damaged by Small Boy on a Motorcycle
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Queef wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:10 pm Just watched a couple seconds of that video... Say all you want, Cambodians have no table manners and eat like fucking pigs. How can you bring someone that eats like that to a Thanksgiving dinner?
All the money, RRs, makeup, whitening creams and what have you can't make up for the fact that Cambodians are simply ill-mannered.
not the poor; whitening cream, nose jobs, and designer brands, to look westernIsaanbarang wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:45 pm I am Australian as well. I too am shocked that Khmer rarely use the good silverware or fine China. I have wondered if the fact most struggle to have a roof over there head and come from a nation where the educated were slaughtered lass than 45 years ago has left them without proper manners. But then I remember why I moved to SE ASia, so I could feel superior and smug.
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Not everyone is, but it's mostly true. So many people eat with their mouths open, and shovel stuff into their mouths. I'm not sure too many would know how to use a knife and fork. I had good table manners beaten into me by my mother in the 1970s. At that time Cambodians were getting beaten to death for complaining that they only got a few teaspoons of gruel.Queef wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:10 pm Just watched a couple seconds of that video... Say all you want, Cambodians have no table manners and eat like fucking pigs. How can you bring someone that eats like that to a Thanksgiving dinner?
All the money, RRs, makeup, whitening creams and what have you can't make up for the fact that Cambodians are simply ill-mannered.
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Wasn t directed at you mate, it was for the man who ponticates merilesslyPhnom Poon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:54 pmQueef wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:10 pm Just watched a couple seconds of that video... Say all you want, Cambodians have no table manners and eat like fucking pigs. How can you bring someone that eats like that to a Thanksgiving dinner?
All the money, RRs, makeup, whitening creams and what have you can't make up for the fact that Cambodians are simply ill-mannered.not the poor; whitening cream, nose jobs, and designer brands, to look westernIsaanbarang wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:45 pm I am Australian as well. I too am shocked that Khmer rarely use the good silverware or fine China. I have wondered if the fact most struggle to have a roof over there head and come from a nation where the educated were slaughtered lass than 45 years ago has left them without proper manners. But then I remember why I moved to SE ASia, so I could feel superior and smug.
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LOL. It's not that I disagree with everything you say, explorer, but it's too funny when you hold up the Australians as great civic world citizens who are so superior to Cambodians (and most other people.) Australians might tell you what they think, but I'm not sure that they listen any more than Cambodians. For example, when you post here, do you listen to the replies ?explorer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:43 pmIt comes from the fact that nobody tells them. In Western culture, if somebody does something others dont like, they tell them. So people learn others dont like their behaviour, and normally change. In Cambodian culture, people normally dont tell them. So they dont know, and dont change. As a result, there are a lot of things which are unacceptable to Westerners, but acceptable to Cambodians.Queef wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:10 pm Cambodians have no table manners and eat like fucking pigs. How can you bring someone that eats like that to a Thanksgiving dinner?
All the money, RRs, makeup, whitening creams and what have you can't make up for the fact that Cambodians are simply ill-mannered.
If you try to tell them, in many cases, you are the one with the problem, not them. So it is difficult for them to even understand.
I could list many examples:
Think about how they drive.
Think about they way they throw trash everywhere.
A Cambodian came up to a Westerner, and said, you have a lot of hair on your arms. Then he grabbed some of the hair. The Westerner punched the Cambodian. The Cambodian didnt think there was anything wrong with what he was doing. It made the Westerner angry.
I was in a village, and had been sitting chatting with a group of people at a house for a while. All of the children got up and walked away. Someone said to me, do you know why all of the children went away? It was because an old lady was coming to the house. She tries to show her affection for the children by pinching them. The children dont like it, and avoid her. But nobody tells her.
You will sometimes come accross Cambodians who talk very loudly. It can be very annoying if you are traveling in a bus, and have to listen to them for a long time. Nobody tells them, so they just continue.
Taking this to the extreme. There are Cambodian people that other Cambodians say are crazy. Some do genuinely have mental problems. I believe there are some which technically dont have mental problems, but have taken their behaviour to the point where they are not fully accepted in society. Nobody tells them. They just say they are crazy.
A lot of what we learn in Western society comes from listening to others. Cambodians dont normally tell, and dont normally listen. Listening to others means losing face. So they lack a lot of those values which make a society civilised.
As an aside, I have seen some terrible cases of poverty, violence, and child neglect in Australia. I have seen beautiful wilderness areas in Australia covered in rubbish. I have seen all the beer cans and plastic bottles that lie along the desert roads, due to Australians throwing their shit out of their car windows. Australians also talk loudly and are fking annoying sometimes. (Like everyone else.)
In real life Cambodia, I have noticed that Cambodians have become more attentive to where they throw their rubbish, and there are now things like litter bins in public spaces which are getting used. Everything will not change overnight, but there have been big changes in the attitude to litter.
I see this as a glass half-full and not a glass half-empty.
@explorer. And this is plain weird. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying that the westerner was right to punch someone for this ?
A Cambodian came up to a Westerner, and said, you have a lot of hair on your arms. Then he grabbed some of the hair. The Westerner punched the Cambodian. The Cambodian didnt think there was anything wrong with what he was doing. It made the Westerner angry.
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But you have to wonder, what is the point of driving fancy cars and pretending to be up there with Jeff Bezos and Bill Ackman if you can't eat/ drive properly? I had to teach my girlfriend table manners. She would always speak with her mouth full of food or eat with her hands at upscale restaurants. She got super offended (like most Khmer do when you show them they are behaving like pigs) the first time. Now all I need to do is give her the look and she knows. Kinda like my parents used to do when I was... 4.Isaanbarang wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:45 pm I am Australian as well. I too am shocked that Khmer rarely use the good silverware or fine China. I have wondered if the fact most struggle to have a roof over there head and come from a nation where the educated were slaughtered lass than 45 years ago has left them without proper manners. But then I remember why I moved to SE ASia, so I could feel superior and smug.
FYI, people struggle a lot more to keep a roof over their heads in California than in Cambodia. Enough with the Khmer Rouge excuse. It's getting old. If they are smart enough to cop a bunch of Bentleys and AMGs, then they are smart enough to learn basic social rules of proper etiquette.
A Louis Vuitton bag, a luxury car, and a fake diamond chandelier don't make you a respectable individual. Your manners however.
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Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:22 pm And this is plain weird. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying that the westerner was right to punch someone for this?
I am not saying he had a right to punch him. I am not saying that is what I would do. I am just saying that is what he did. In our culture people just wouldn't do that. Some people have less tolerance for things that annoy them than others.
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Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that you are saying that in your culture, some people are not very tolerant, and when they get annoyed, they punch people ?explorer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:59 pmAnchor Moy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:22 pm And this is plain weird. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying that the westerner was right to punch someone for this?I am not saying he had a right to punch him. I am not saying that is what I would do. I am just saying that is what he did. In our culture people just wouldn't do that. Some people have less tolerance for things that annoy them than others.
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I m sure your wife appreciates the look you give her. No doubt she tanks her lucky stars every night that you lifted her to a level that you are no longer ashamed to be seen with her. And FYI California's rarely eat rat and live in million dollar homes. I am sure they struggle to put a Starbucks coffee in the cup holder of their Tesla. Perhaps I will go watch Pygmalion tonight or better yet why Don t you share the film with your gf, enjoy a fine Napa valley wine and tell her of your struggles.Queef wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:45 pmBut you have to wonder, what is the point of driving fancy cars and pretending to be up there with Jeff Bezos and Bill Ackman if you can't eat/ drive properly? I had to teach my girlfriend table manners. She would always speak with her mouth full of food or eat with her hands at upscale restaurants. She got super offended (like most Khmer do when you show them they are behaving like pigs) the first time. Now all I need to do is give her the look and she knows. Kinda like my parents used to do when I was... 4.Isaanbarang wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:45 pm I am Australian as well. I too am shocked that Khmer rarely use the good silverware or fine China. I have wondered if the fact most struggle to have a roof over there head and come from a nation where the educated were slaughtered lass than 45 years ago has left them without proper manners. But then I remember why I moved to SE ASia, so I could feel superior and smug.
FYI, people struggle a lot more to keep a roof over their heads in California than in Cambodia. Enough with the Khmer Rouge excuse. It's getting old. If they are smart enough to cop a bunch of Bentleys and AMGs, then they are smart enough to learn basic social rules of proper etiquette.
A Louis Vuitton bag, a luxury car, and a fake diamond chandelier don't make you a respectable individual. Your manners however.
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You shouldn’t be bothered much by the people of Cambodia not eating, drinking, etc. in a way you prefer. Instead of considering them somehow uncivilized you need to realize the difference in how they were raised. We are not inherently superior, and if I was raised in the same circumstances I would behave just as a Khmer would.
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I would suggest some of us could use a refresher on the Maslow Hierarchy of Needs. Table manners are about 4/5 of the way up the scale. The average Khmer aspires to be 1/2 way up the scale.
Needs
Physiological
Safety
Love and Belonging
Esteem
Self-Actualization
Yes, the Range Rover lady drives a car usually driven by someone with better table manners and on finer roads in countries that have better traffic enforcement and a more stringent licencing policy. I guess for some it is difficult to understand those good table manners don t matter as much as cold hard cash in some societies. If they did, most of us would be driving the RRs, Audis and Lexus'instead of a scooter.
Needs
Physiological
Safety
Love and Belonging
Esteem
Self-Actualization
Yes, the Range Rover lady drives a car usually driven by someone with better table manners and on finer roads in countries that have better traffic enforcement and a more stringent licencing policy. I guess for some it is difficult to understand those good table manners don t matter as much as cold hard cash in some societies. If they did, most of us would be driving the RRs, Audis and Lexus'instead of a scooter.
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