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tightenupvolume1 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:25 pm I didn't see what happened to that bloke with the distended belly, did he die in cambodia ? Until i see firm evidence that a British citizen died in Cambodia or anywhere else in the world because the embassy refused help i will stand by what i said.
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Cheers i couldn't be bothered to read through the whole post to find out what happened to him. I read on here about lots of British people who end up on the street in Cambodia with no money/passport/ill ETC my guess is that most of them get returned by the embassy and of course that doesn't get reported on here most of the time. I think he was the exception rather than the rule, and who knows the details of his case ? maybe he was to far gone to engage with the embassy. If somebody went to the embassy for help because they were ill/skint ETC they would not be told to fuck off, if that were the case thousands of brits would be dying all over the world everyday, i know of several people who have been repatriated in the last 10 years.

ps i just looked at my old passport from when i was repatriated from Bombay, i still have the receipt from when i payed them back the £307 for the flight which is around £1500 today !
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There have been 2 other occasions when I have needed the embassy help. In 1972 I lost my wallet whilst hitchhiking from Santa cruz to San Francisco, I went to the embassy where they let me phone my dad, it took a couple of days as we didn't have a phone at home and I had to contact somebody else. He finally phoned back and said he would send me £20 and that took another couple of days to arrive. The bloke in the embassy gave me 2 food vouchers every day which I could use in a place somewhere in north beach, he also gave me a couple of dollars out of his own pocket to buy a pack of Top tobacco.

In 2006 I was in hospital in Goa (again)! I had insurance so no problem and they discharged me after a week. I was very weak so phoned the consul in Panjim for some help in getting a hotel as I was too weak to trawl around. She made a few phones calls to find a hotel in my budget and then arranged a tuk tuk to take me there. :bow:
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:dragonchase: //3
I distinctly remember him boasting about how street smart he was,how he had triumphed in worse situations and how he would have Ms Vee soon "eating out of my hands ".
Comparable to a teenager trying to out drive Jakie Stewart or Michael Shoemaker, or trying to outbat Sir Donald Bradman. Or. , as likely that a team of middle aged social rugby players could beat the Allblacks*
* New Zealand national Rugby team . :dragonchase:
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tightenupvolume1 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:08 pm Cheers i couldn't be bothered to read through the whole post to find out what happened to him. I read on here about lots of British people who end up on the street in Cambodia with no money/passport/ill ETC my guess is that most of them get returned by the embassy and of course that doesn't get reported on here most of the time. I think he was the exception rather than the rule, and who knows the details of his case ? maybe he was to far gone to engage with the embassy. If somebody went to the embassy for help because they were ill/skint ETC they would not be told to fuck off, if that were the case thousands of brits would be dying all over the world everyday, i know of several people who have been repatriated in the last 10 years.

ps i just looked at my old passport from when i was repatriated from Bombay, i still have the receipt from when i payed them back the £307 for the flight which is around £1500 today !
Unless you are at medical risk of dying on their doorstep you will not get repatriated by the British embassy in PP. Ask Lambo about his alcoholic basket-case fellow county man, my mate still had to pay for his ticket, and got stung for the money by his family. He would most likely have died here without my mate helping.
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pczz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:07 am
Yerg wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:39 am
Kung-fu Hillbilly wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:22 pm
John Bingham wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:07 pm
Kung-fu Hillbilly wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:42 pm I've never quite understood the anguish and drama some people experience with the loss of a passport. Yes, it's bit of an inconvenience but embassies are able to remedy the problem without much fuss.
Their embassy might be thousands of km away in another country. They might miss their flight because they have no passport. With no proper ID it can be difficult to get anything official done.
I do realise for some people it could be stressful but for the majority it's not such a big deal. Emergency passports can be issued quite promptly for travel, and now with many embassies represented in Phnom Penh from countries that I'd suggest represent the majority of travellers to the country, it's pretty painless - even verifying ID. Some embassies act as representatives for other countries as well.

Embassies in Phnom Penh.
Australia
Bulgaria
China
Cuba
Czech Republic
East Timor
France
Germany
India
Indonesia
Japan
Kuwait
Laos
Malaysia
Myanmar
North Korea
Pakistan
Philippines
Russia
Singapore
South Korea
Sweden
Thailand
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States
Vietnam

Other representation in Phnom Penh
Canada (Office of the Embassy)[2]
European Union (Delegation)

Consulates
Vietnam (Battambang and Sihanoukville)
Japan (Siem Reap)
Switzerland (Phnom Penh)
Denmark (Phnom Penh)
All that to one side, @John Bingham , I have lost a passport. (Actually stolen as opposed to lost.) I reported to my embassy (with no other formal ID save for an Omani driving license (not proper ID), and the UK embassy had me a temporary passport in 3 working days. I was able to travel through 3 countries. I got back to the UK, had an emergency passport appointment and received a new passport in 4 hours. I even remember the pub I sat in while waiting for the passport and the book I was reading while I waited. It ain't hard. It really isn't.
And how much did the uk embassy charge you? If you wnet there with no passport and no money and noone in the Uk to send them money to pay for the emergency travel document would you have still got home? I have been in there when a guy who was mugged and lost his wallet and passport was trying to get assistance and they told him they could do nothing unless someone at home would send them the emergency travel document fee
I suppose that is the entire point, PC. I had a situation, that didn't require me to report to immigration "for the legal procedure", because I had the money to extricate myself from a difficult position. Moreover, had I not had the wherewithall to dig myself out of the situation, I could have made one phone call and the situation would have been remedied. So, you kind of answered your own question with your own question.

I had my passport stolen. These things happen. I had no formal British ID, but still managed the process. Granted, I still had my debit card, as it was in my home. I lost my credit card as part of the robbery. Cancelled that in the space of about 7 or 8 taps of my screen on my phone. Embassy were brilliant, told me the cost, and I paid it. I care little for people who, if found in the same situation, don't have the acorns to get themselves out of their plight. I'm sorry, but there are too many apologists for people who get themselves in trouble and can't get themselves out of it.

I'm fairly sure that you are not a fool, and I am equally sure that presented with the same situation, you'll breeze through the recovery process. I sometimes get a little tired of people who put themselves in a bad place and can't get themselves out of it. It's always down to someone else to fix. And that's what boils my piss.
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Yerg wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:23 am
pczz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:07 am
Yerg wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:39 am
Kung-fu Hillbilly wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:22 pm
John Bingham wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:07 pm
I suppose that is the entire point, PC. I had a situation, that didn't require me to report to immigration "for the legal procedure", because I had the money to extricate myself from a difficult position. Moreover, had I not had the wherewithall to dig myself out of the situation, I could have made one phone call and the situation would have been remedied. So, you kind of answered your own question with your own question.

I had my passport stolen. These things happen. I had no formal British ID, but still managed the process. Granted, I still had my debit card, as it was in my home. I lost my credit card as part of the robbery. Cancelled that in the space of about 7 or 8 taps of my screen on my phone. Embassy were brilliant, told me the cost, and I paid it. I care little for people who, if found in the same situation, don't have the acorns to get themselves out of their plight. I'm sorry, but there are too many apologists for people who get themselves in trouble and can't get themselves out of it.

I'm fairly sure that you are not a fool, and I am equally sure that presented with the same situation, you'll breeze through the recovery process. I sometimes get a little tired of people who put themselves in a bad place and can't get themselves out of it. It's always down to someone else to fix. And that's what boils my piss.
I am not a fol but I would be up shit creek if all my stuff got stolen as I have noone in the uk who could assist, and that is the crux of it. if you have family or friends at home who can bail you out then thats dandy. What boils my piss, as you put it, is that HMRC are dead keen to rob me of taxes when i dont even live there and use any of the services, but deny me assiaitance whne I need it. if you are not going to assist your nationals then stop charging them tax. Some travel insurance will help out in such situations AFTER you give them the police report, which you of course have no money to pay for. Or like me your "challenger bank" has an IT screwup, crashes the app and no way of contacting them to fix it. that would have left me stranded for 10 days with no cash if I hadn't had a Khmer bank account. And what gets me even more angry is I had to do something for an irish citizen, They do not have an embassy here so you have to contact Hanoi. British embassy refused to do anything unti the irish embassy asked them, and then they bent over backwards, but they will not lift a finger to help a british citizen who pays their bloody wages :evil:
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cptrelentless wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:05 pm
tightenupvolume1 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:08 pm Cheers i couldn't be bothered to read through the whole post to find out what happened to him. I read on here about lots of British people who end up on the street in Cambodia with no money/passport/ill ETC my guess is that most of them get returned by the embassy and of course that doesn't get reported on here most of the time. I think he was the exception rather than the rule, and who knows the details of his case ? maybe he was to far gone to engage with the embassy. If somebody went to the embassy for help because they were ill/skint ETC they would not be told to fuck off, if that were the case thousands of brits would be dying all over the world everyday, i know of several people who have been repatriated in the last 10 years.

ps i just looked at my old passport from when i was repatriated from Bombay, i still have the receipt from when i payed them back the £307 for the flight which is around £1500 today !
Unless you are at medical risk of dying on their doorstep you will not get repatriated by the British embassy in PP. Ask Lambo about his alcoholic basket-case fellow county man, "my mate still had to pay for his ticket, and got stung for the money by his family." He would most likely have died here without my mate helping.
"my mate still had to pay for his ticket, and got stung for the money by his family."

well of course he did ! the embassy is not a charity giving people air tickets willy nilly. If you go into an embassy for help they will insist that you get your family/friends to help, will let you use the phone etc. Most people who get into trouble abroad have money or can get money through friends or family the embassy will always try to help them do that. People get repatriated from abroad all the time, the ones with no other options except to live and die on the street, when you get to the UK the border people keep your passport until you repay the air fare.
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pczz wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:02 am
Yerg wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:23 am
pczz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:07 am
Yerg wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:39 am
Kung-fu Hillbilly wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:22 pm
I suppose that is the entire point, PC. I had a situation, that didn't require me to report to immigration "for the legal procedure", because I had the money to extricate myself from a difficult position. Moreover, had I not had the wherewithall to dig myself out of the situation, I could have made one phone call and the situation would have been remedied. So, you kind of answered your own question with your own question.

I had my passport stolen. These things happen. I had no formal British ID, but still managed the process. Granted, I still had my debit card, as it was in my home. I lost my credit card as part of the robbery. Cancelled that in the space of about 7 or 8 taps of my screen on my phone. Embassy were brilliant, told me the cost, and I paid it. I care little for people who, if found in the same situation, don't have the acorns to get themselves out of their plight. I'm sorry, but there are too many apologists for people who get themselves in trouble and can't get themselves out of it.

I'm fairly sure that you are not a fool, and I am equally sure that presented with the same situation, you'll breeze through the recovery process. I sometimes get a little tired of people who put themselves in a bad place and can't get themselves out of it. It's always down to someone else to fix. And that's what boils my piss.
I am not a fol but I would be up shit creek if all my stuff got stolen as I have noone in the uk who could assist, and that is the crux of it. if you have family or friends at home who can bail you out then thats dandy. What boils my piss, as you put it, is that HMRC are dead keen to rob me of taxes when i dont even live there and use any of the services, but deny me assiaitance whne I need it. if you are not going to assist your nationals then stop charging them tax. Some travel insurance will help out in such situations AFTER you give them the police report, which you of course have no money to pay for. Or like me your "challenger bank" has an IT screwup, crashes the app and no way of contacting them to fix it. that would have left me stranded for 10 days with no cash if I hadn't had a Khmer bank account. And what gets me even more angry is I had to do something for an irish citizen, They do not have an embassy here so you have to contact Hanoi. British embassy refused to do anything unti the irish embassy asked them, and then they bent over backwards, but they will not lift a finger to help a british citizen who pays their bloody wages :evil:
I haven't read subsequent posts to this, so apologies if I blur some lines.

I fully understand your ire, PC. I too pay my taxes, and get far less back than I contribute. But that's our system, and we can either obey it, or we can decide not to and accept the detriments that might come our way. I am not trying to be an argumentative prick. It has been my experience to date, that one should always have a back-up. A "what-if" bail out scenario. I get that I am lucky that I have the phone call that will fix most things if necessary. I suppose I didn't make clear that I didn't need to use that, because I had my own disaster-recovery in place. And that's probably more my point than anything else. Have a back-up, have a plan and have a contingency that allows you to walk away with your dignity intact.
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In principle i agree with you, but in Practice many people who travle are notvery well informed, or not very well resourced or fall foul of rule changes.
As a solo travellerI used to keep an assortment of cards in various places just in case I got robbed, but then bank a decided it couldn't send money to cambodia anymore, banks b and c decided I need a uk number for security codes and phone company a decided to shut down my uk phone because i had not used it in the Uk in 12 months, despite paying for it and with no notice. the only thing saved my arse was i already had a Khmer bank account with funds in it, which kept me going for the 10days it took to sort out the other clusterfuxks. the point I am making is that the government should eb there as a port of last recourse. You dont get benefits if you have money, if you don't have money yu are 9intheory) entitled to them. Embassies hsoul operate in the same fashion and get the money back in your tax code, if you are working, or from your benefits or pension if you are not. problem solved
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