Bulgarian Expat Dies From Falling Down the Stairs

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Cambodia News, Siem Reap: According to the National Police General Commission, at 12:30 AM on October 3, 2020 at Treak Village, Siem Reap Sangkat, Siem Reap, a foreign man died when he was sent to hospital after an accident in his home.

Victim's name: DIMOV IVAN TSEVTANOV, male, born on 01-05-1951, Bulgarian, retired, living at home with his Cambodian wife in Treak village, Siem Reap city.

Based on the research of the competent experts and the official autopsist, Dr. Ith Chhochorrat, it was concluded that the victim died due to high blood pressure (caused by falling from the stairs on the first floor).
Currently, the authorities have sent the body to be temporarily stored at Wat Stung Meanchey, Phnom Penh, to wait for a decision from the family and the embassy.

RIP and condolences to his wife and family.
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RIP fellow traveller.
I hope your family resolves, your affairs get sorted and your passage over the Styx is smooth.
They reckon it is peaceful over there on the under-world side.

As we get old (some of us anyway) and even more decrepit, it might be wise to put Cambodian staircases onto our "high mortality risk" list and be a bit more cautious around them.
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:45 am it was concluded that the victim died due to high blood pressure (caused by falling from the stairs on the first floor).
Seriously?
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TheImplication wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:57 am
CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:45 am it was concluded that the victim died due to high blood pressure (caused by falling from the stairs on the first floor).
Seriously?
Based on the research of the competent experts


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Those stairs do look a bit dodgy though, there's no banister, I'd have to lean to the left going up those, especially after a few vodka's,
but anyway RIP,
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DaveG wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:24 pm Those stairs do look a bit dodgy though, there's no banister, I'd have to lean to the left going up those, especially after a few vodka's,
but anyway RIP,


Ascending / descending on all 4s would be the safest option - you'd look a bit odd but that's preferable to splitting your head open. Alternatively, just stick up a bannister.

The pathologists here are as lazy as they are incompetent. Insultingly half-arsed.
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Skankykins wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:47 pm
The pathologists here are as lazy as they are incompetent. Insultingly half-arsed.
That's a widely sweeping statement and unless you come up with some evidence to the contrary, I would say generally untrue. I worked with the MOH and various health facilities here from 1996 and now there are many excellent pathologists and health facilities in operation. I know that there are still some "back street doctors that are suspect, but I dont think those are who we are discussing here.

Also bear in mind the translation and how it has been reported:
"Based on the research of the competent experts and the official autopsist, Dr. Ith Chhochorrat, it was concluded that the victim died due to high blood pressure (caused by falling from the stairs on the first floor)."

That diagnosis could be quite correct and his Hypertension may have caused a blackout or similar which lead to him falling down stairs. That trauma may have induced a stroke or similar.Note there is no mention of head injury or TBI which usually affects the patient hours later, although there can be instances of immediate death.
The report states:
"Based on the research of the competent experts and the official autopsist, Dr. Ith Chhochorrat, it was concluded that the victim died due to high blood pressure (caused by falling from the stairs on the first floor).
There are two possible likely scenarios: that the person was suffering from Hypertension and the trauma of the fall induced a myocardial infarction, or because he was suffering from hypertension he blacked out and fell down the stairs, which exacerbated his condition causing death.

These are suppositions based on scant information from a news report. Note there is no mention of head injury, which I admit could have been missed and so TBI is a possibility although as I mentioned it usually happens hours later.
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After seeing this that has to be my 2nd most fear here .
I think if I dont get killed in a moto accident my biggest fear has to be slipping backwards on a slippery floor .
I tend to fall or jump off balconies so very happy to have a ground floor apartment now .
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Kuroneko wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:49 pm
Skankykins wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:47 pm
The pathologists here are as lazy as they are incompetent. Insultingly half-arsed.
That's a widely sweeping statement and unless you come up with some evidence to the contrary, I would say generally untrue. I worked with the MOH and various health facilities here from 1996 and now there are many excellent pathologists and health facilities in operation. I know that there are still some "back street doctors that are suspect, but I dont think those are who we are discussing here.

Also bear in mind the translation and how it has been reported:
"Based on the research of the competent experts and the official autopsist, Dr. Ith Chhochorrat, it was concluded that the victim died due to high blood pressure (caused by falling from the stairs on the first floor)."

That diagnosis could be quite correct and his Hypertension may have caused a blackout or similar which lead to him falling down stairs. That trauma may have induced a stroke or similar.Note there is no mention of head injury or TBI which usually affects the patient hours later, although there can be instances of immediate death.
The report states:
"Based on the research of the competent experts and the official autopsist, Dr. Ith Chhochorrat, it was concluded that the victim died due to high blood pressure (caused by falling from the stairs on the first floor).
There are two possible likely scenarios: that the person was suffering from Hypertension and the trauma of the fall induced a myocardial infarction, or because he was suffering from hypertension he blacked out and fell down the stairs, which exacerbated his condition causing death.

These are suppositions based on scant information from a news report. Note there is no mention of head injury, which I admit could have been missed and so TBI is a possibility although as I mentioned it usually happens hours later.


Thanks. I'm only going by what I've read on internet forums and local rags so I must be right, right?

In all seriousness it seems many sudden deaths that occur here are reported as heart attacks even when the evidence presented by the media suggests otherwise, and many suspicious deaths seem to be written-off as suicide. There was that guy who cut off his own cock and put it in his mouth, and the Frenchman (and possibly his family) that were found in his car's trunk at the bottom of a lake. I'm sure both of those incidents were attributed to taking their own lives, which - as any sane person would conclude - is ludicrous.

If I were a family member I'd be pretty offended if they were the coroners' verdicts.

Maybe the investigations and subsequent PMs have become more thorough but that's not generally what I see when reading about them.
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