If the delivery is in my Khan, then I tend not to tip unless it is an unwieldy order. But when a guy is riding from Namaste all the way to Toul Kork and typically having to wait for the restaurant to prepare a fine feast, not just a fried chicken off a warmer, I also tip. Also public holidays as without them, it'd be a bit rubbish to find somewhere open to eat, etc. Okay, a bit lazy on that last bit!

John Bingham wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:42 am

BklynBoy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:25 pm

WildAlaskaKen wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:42 pm My personal code of ethics mandates that I be charitable to those less fortunate than me, which is 99% of all Cambodians, so I tip generously to anyone that is competant. Besides, since I save umpteen dollars in Bar Fines and Leave as Soon as I am Finshed fees for the go go girls by not beiong in Bangkok, someone needs all that spare change.

I agree w/ this. 1 dollar may not mean much to us but for the driver -- especially if they are competent. I never really ordered food in --while in Cambodia but was curious for the people who have, do you get the same driver/ delivery person? There are soooo many of them. I would think it would be nice to tip someone- especially if the same person delivers food to you again

No, I get food delivered about 10 times a week and it's never the same driver. Some of them are fine and others are absolute morons who park up in the wrong place and then they call you and you have to explain to them that they should try looking around. Like I'm across the street a few meters behind you Also most Cambodians I know are far more wealthy than I am - but maybe you're some kind of multi-billionaire so fair enough.

Well arent you important. I shook Donald Trumps hand and saw the King of Thailand.

Im not talking about folks I know, but folks who WORK for me, you arent having all your billionaires deliver your $1 chicken burger are you then?

pissontheroof wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:30 am

Captain Bonez wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:11 am

Jeez I haven’t been able to post a picture in seems like forever now
Even spreading my fingers apart and making this bigger it’s still too blurry to read
So is this the way it is always going to be from now on ?
No brainiac can fix it the way it was ?

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khmerhamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:38 am

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:04 pm

mikeukt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:51 pm I tip less than a dollar as a matter of course as they act as the restaurant waiter/waitress would and I would generally tip them.

As a point, does anyone actually know what the deal is for delivery drivers? Like, how much per delivery, a small percentage of the bill, or what?

Depends on what platform and what city. But for example in Phnom Penh Nham24 pays base salary of $100-$250 and then they get commission on each delivery. Not sure how much it is. And obviously they get the tip too.
Average salary for full time Nham24 delivery driver in Phnom Penh is around $550. In Sihanoukville slightly less, Kampot and Siem Reap on average they make probably $400-$450. The best ones in Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville makes closer to $800 / month on peak months, which is pretty great salary for delivery guy in Cambodia. On other platforms the drivers are often just freelancers, so no base salaries. Nham24 pays the best.

Are these numbers right? I find it hard to believe that a Nham24 delivery guy can take home $800 per month. What makes a good driver, in that they could make that much money? Surely there can’t be that much difference in delivery timings between the best map readers and the crappy ones - maybe save 5 mins an hour? Do the bigger earner just work 16 hour days?

The numbers are from the management and from drivers so I would say the numbers are pretty accurate. The $800 figure was provided by the company's founder. And yes, I do believe earning that much usually means working extra hours, but the usual income is made during normal Cambodian work hours.

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:07 pm

khmerhamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:38 am

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:04 pm

mikeukt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:51 pm I tip less than a dollar as a matter of course as they act as the restaurant waiter/waitress would and I would generally tip them.

As a point, does anyone actually know what the deal is for delivery drivers? Like, how much per delivery, a small percentage of the bill, or what?

Depends on what platform and what city. But for example in Phnom Penh Nham24 pays base salary of $100-$250 and then they get commission on each delivery. Not sure how much it is. And obviously they get the tip too.
Average salary for full time Nham24 delivery driver in Phnom Penh is around $550. In Sihanoukville slightly less, Kampot and Siem Reap on average they make probably $400-$450. The best ones in Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville makes closer to $800 / month on peak months, which is pretty great salary for delivery guy in Cambodia. On other platforms the drivers are often just freelancers, so no base salaries. Nham24 pays the best.

Are these numbers right? I find it hard to believe that a Nham24 delivery guy can take home $800 per month. What makes a good driver, in that they could make that much money? Surely there can’t be that much difference in delivery timings between the best map readers and the crappy ones - maybe save 5 mins an hour? Do the bigger earner just work 16 hour days?

The numbers are from the management and from drivers so I would say the numbers are pretty accurate. The $800 figure was provided by the company's founder. And yes, I do believe earning that much usually means working extra hours, but the usual income is made during normal Cambodian work hours.

I just happened to spot a job advert for Nham24, which further proves my numbers:

You realize w/ jobs like this they always list numbers that are almost never achievable

They do that bullshit in the U.S. w/ Uber drivers

I will tip if I make the driver do something extra like stop and pick up ice + Stingក្រហម for me or carry the food up my four flights of stairs, but otherwise I try to avoid tipping to perpetuate a negative culture, but then I always overpay on Tuktuk rides because I feel like 3000 Riel isn't a fair price so sometimes I'll add an extra 2000-4000 just so it feels fair (I don't consider this a tip, just an attempt at helping create a fair wage)

HaifongWangchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:27 am I will tip if I make the driver do something extra like stop and pick up ice + Stingក្រហម for me or carry the food up my four flights of stairs, but otherwise I try to avoid tipping to perpetuate a negative culture, but then I always overpay on Tuktuk rides because I feel like 3000 Riel isn't a fair price so sometimes I'll add an extra 2000-4000 just so it feels fair (I don't consider this a tip, just an attempt at helping create a fair wage)

For rides that seem barely break-even, also find myself "overpaying" tuktuk drivers in order to render what is appropriate.

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:29 pm

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:07 pm

khmerhamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:38 am

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:04 pm

mikeukt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:51 pm I tip less than a dollar as a matter of course as they act as the restaurant waiter/waitress would and I would generally tip them.

As a point, does anyone actually know what the deal is for delivery drivers? Like, how much per delivery, a small percentage of the bill, or what?

Depends on what platform and what city. But for example in Phnom Penh Nham24 pays base salary of $100-$250 and then they get commission on each delivery. Not sure how much it is. And obviously they get the tip too.
Average salary for full time Nham24 delivery driver in Phnom Penh is around $550. In Sihanoukville slightly less, Kampot and Siem Reap on average they make probably $400-$450. The best ones in Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville makes closer to $800 / month on peak months, which is pretty great salary for delivery guy in Cambodia. On other platforms the drivers are often just freelancers, so no base salaries. Nham24 pays the best.

Are these numbers right? I find it hard to believe that a Nham24 delivery guy can take home $800 per month. What makes a good driver, in that they could make that much money? Surely there can’t be that much difference in delivery timings between the best map readers and the crappy ones - maybe save 5 mins an hour? Do the bigger earner just work 16 hour days?

The numbers are from the management and from drivers so I would say the numbers are pretty accurate. The $800 figure was provided by the company's founder. And yes, I do believe earning that much usually means working extra hours, but the usual income is made during normal Cambodian work hours.

I just happened to spot a job advert for Nham24, which further proves my numbers:

I didn't think the roads could be any more dangerous to walk on until the explosion of these delivery drivers. 99% of Khmers drive at a fairly pedestrian pace, but these guys add a whole new layer of risk when walking around town.

These are the guys that will always go around the waiting traffic and jump the lights, they will tear around blind corners into small streets at twice the speed of the granny on her Honda and will happily play chicken with you in a head-to-head. They are always looking at their phones too, so never assume they have seen you.

Fortunately, their garish corporate colours are now embedded into my brain's limbic system and prepares me for evasive action the moment they come into view.