Do you speak broken English?

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Us cockneys do love a bit of rhyming slang. I was working In Sante Fe New Mexico in the 90s and we used to drink a beer called Negra Modello, we called it nelson mandela and then it got shortened to nelson. Our local bar knew what we meant when we ordered a bottle of `nelson. I would like to think that some people in Sante Fe use that term today without really knowing why :beer1:
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Even the BBC has pidgin news channel now

However,a good many white dudes, especially the ones who spent time in Thailand before here speak like Thag the caveman

"Thag not happy"

"Thag go Oscar beer, see fren Thag, drink beer, Thag like drink beer"

"OK, we go now, wait Thag call passapp cunt"
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Pseudonomdeplume wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:55 pm We really are a condescending, supercilious lot, though. It should be us learning Khmer and them speaking comprehensively to us.
I can't imagine why anyone would speak English (broken or not) to any local unless they speak to you in English first? Pretty much nobody in my neighborhood speaks English.
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tightenupvolume1 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:58 pm Us cockneys do love a bit of rhyming slang. I was working In Sante Fe New Mexico in the 90s and we used to drink a beer called Negra Modello, we called it nelson mandela and then it got shortened to nelson. Our local bar knew what we meant when we ordered a bottle of `nelson. I would like to think that some people in Sante Fe use that term today without really knowing why :beer1:
reminds me of this article..

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/arch ... ct/618871/

Why We Speak More Weirdly at Home
When people share a space, their collective experience can sprout its own vocabulary, known as a familect.

Many of us have a secret language, the private lexicon of our home life. Perhaps you have a nickname from a parent that followed you into adulthood.

Maybe you have an old joke or a shared reference to a song. Sometimes known as familects, these invented words, pet names, in-jokes, and personal memes swirl and emerge from the mess of lives spent in close quarters.
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tightenupvolume1 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:58 pm Us cockneys do love a bit of rhyming slang. I was working In Sante Fe New Mexico in the 90s and we used to drink a beer called Negra Modello, we called it nelson mandela and then it got shortened to nelson. Our local bar knew what we meant when we ordered a bottle of `nelson. I would like to think that some people in Sante Fe use that term today without really knowing why :beer1:
Knew a few “geezers” who spoke Cockney. One was from Stevenage, the other was from Kent. Most are not even Eastenders.

Although we used to say “Ruby” “use your loaf” etc. But it was in jest.
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I only speak in iambic pentameter and rhyming couplets when I'm talking to bargirls, and I've never had any issues.

However, none of my prose has made it into their lexicon either, despite my best efforts to educate them.

On a serious note, pidgen English bugs the living shit out of me. Not when locals use it - they are trying to speak a second language, at least. But when native speakers butcher their own language on purpose.

Reminds me of an old English guy that taught here for years. He had a Thai wife and would talk pidgen to her, and to his native speaking colleagues, and his students.

He spoke to his wife like:
Honey go market buy beer Leo put in the doo-yen for me. Me drink today but me play snooker before drink. OK. *laughs like mutley from wacky races*


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Jerry Atrick wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:03 pm Even the BBC has pidgin news channel now
Yeah we’re in danger here of conflating Pidgin dialect with Bad English. They’re not the same.
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Good point.
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Also let’s never forget Prince Charles’ attempt:
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John Bingham wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:05 pm
Pseudonomdeplume wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:55 pm We really are a condescending, supercilious lot, though. It should be us learning Khmer and them speaking comprehensively to us.
I can't imagine why anyone would speak English (broken or not) to any local unless they speak to you in English first? Pretty much nobody in my neighborhood speaks English.
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