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Khartoum wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:Watch out for that dangerous chemical dihydrogen monoxide; never eat anything which has come into contact with it.
The misuse of pesticides and herbicides in Cambodia is alive and well.

While it is the farmer who is faced with higher exposures, the consumer still needs to exercise a degree of caution.
Yeah, except of course that all exploration of the benefits of organic food show it to be of spurious benefit at best.
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Good link. Thanks.

It would be nice to hope that the list of banned Pesticides is properly policed.
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TheGrinchSR wrote:
Khartoum wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:Watch out for that dangerous chemical dihydrogen monoxide; never eat anything which has come into contact with it.
The misuse of pesticides and herbicides in Cambodia is alive and well.

While it is the farmer who is faced with higher exposures, the consumer still needs to exercise a degree of caution.
Yeah, except of course that all exploration of the benefits of organic food show it to be of spurious benefit at best.
You seem to be a bit out of touch with the reality of this place Grinch. There have been news reports in recent months of farmers spraying pesticides today on crops they intend to sell tomorrow. [guaranteed bug free veges]

You wanna eat that? Some don't have much choice.

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Username Taken wrote:I think they are probably right about getting certified in Cambodia. Even if there was some form of certification, people would just pay a little extra to fast track the certification anyway.

If you really wanted to be sure, you could ask to visit their farm and see for yourself. And ask questions about how they deal with bugs and powdery mildew, etc.
^ This. Unless you know the farmer I wouldn't believe any claims of produce being organic in this part of the world. Following organic farming practices here is too costly and there is not a big enough consumer market for it yet to make it worth while. Most consumers here select their food based on price alone. As stated above, it's the pesticides and mildew/fungicides that you want to avoid, especially for young children.

Anyone who thinks eating food sprayed with pesticides is not a health issue deserves what they get.
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For the most part, self policing would be the way to go but highly dependent on the integrity and/or 'education' of the farmer.

As per the link http://ap.fftc.agnet.org/ap_db.php?id=554, banned chemicals are shown for sale in the markets, and while these could be rounded up quite easily by Ag Ministry people, it is out on the field that really matters.
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wash it off using natural ingredients if finding organic veg is too much of a hassle

http://dailymom.com/nest/3-natural-ways ... m-produce/
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bolueeleh wrote:wash it off using natural ingredients if finding organic veg is too much of a hassle

http://dailymom.com/nest/3-natural-ways ... m-produce/
Some of the toxic chemicals get absorbed. Can't wash that away.

http://www.healthychild.org/produce-pur ... esticides/
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Correct; systemic insecticides are in the produce, not on it.
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Rutiger wrote:
bolueeleh wrote:wash it off using natural ingredients if finding organic veg is too much of a hassle

http://dailymom.com/nest/3-natural-ways ... m-produce/
Some of the toxic chemicals get absobed. Can't wash that away.

http://www.healthychild.org/produce-pur ... esticides/
better than none, at least wash off whats on the surface and reduce the total amount of pesticide.
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Username Taken wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:
Khartoum wrote:
TheGrinchSR wrote:Watch out for that dangerous chemical dihydrogen monoxide; never eat anything which has come into contact with it.
The misuse of pesticides and herbicides in Cambodia is alive and well.

While it is the farmer who is faced with higher exposures, the consumer still needs to exercise a degree of caution.
Yeah, except of course that all exploration of the benefits of organic food show it to be of spurious benefit at best.
You seem to be a bit out of touch with the reality of this place Grinch. There have been news reports in recent months of farmers spraying pesticides today on crops they intend to sell tomorrow. [guaranteed bug free veges]

You wanna eat that? Some don't have much choice.

:please:
Not out of touch with the realities at all. Pesticides aren't, in themselves, a major problem. Many of them wash straight off. Many more do not penetrate the outer layers (peeling can miraculously cut down on pesticides to about zero in many cases). If you want something to get worked up about - I'd stop looking at the veg and start looking at the fish. I can't believe anybody willingly puts seafood/riverfood in their gobs in South East Asia; that's a recipe for heavy metal poisoning and worse. But that's not quite as exciting as getting worked up about pesticides on vegetables for some reason...
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