Do you agree with mandatory vaccinations

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:45 am

Cooldude wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:37 am
Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:30 am
Cooldude wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:23 am
Alex wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:09 am Mandatory for what exactly?

For merely existing, NO. For air travel, YES. Next time I fly, I don't want to have unvaccinated people sitting anywhere near me.
What about unvaccinated people who have recovered from Covid ?
The problem is loads of (unvaccinated) people are convinced they have had covid but blood tests can not confirm it. Some people refuse the vaccine because of their conviction they're already protected because they went through the disease, or at least are convinced they went through it.
Most smart countries will treat a positive antibody test like a vaccination card. So for me, on a plane, a positive antibody test will do. A claim they had it, nope.
Nobody knows at this point how long antibodies from the vaccine last. So, if you gave an antibody test to someone who was vaccinated 9 months ago, they might not have a positive antibody test either.

But they have proof they got the vaccine.
I don't have proof I went through the disease just because I think I did. Might have been a common cold, or the flu, or a hangover.

I know of one family in my country. The family all refused a vaccine. The father went through covid, has been moderately ill and was diagnosed with covid. Antibody test positive. Mother had minor symptoms and assumed she had it too. Later she took care of her son when he had covid, so she assumed her immune system had another booster for covid.
Antibody test was negative. She is convinced she had it, and is convinced she is protected. She now demands to be treated like a vaccinated person.
So now what? Believe her because she knows her body best and provide full access and don't require any tests?

Sirhaden1 · Post by **Sirhaden1** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:57 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:48 am As above:
i got both shots, not because i thought i would be safer or it would prevent me from getting covid but because i hope (d) it would one day be required to travel without quarantine, ( looks like now by the time unquarantined travel comes around, i will need 1 or ever 2 boosters)

I do NOT agree with mandatory vaccinations to travel or work
I would go with everyone would need a negative test to travel and hopefully one day there will be quick tests which would need be taken once/week at work IF ur unvaccinated

Just because you have had 1, 2, 3 vacancies does not mean you do NOT have covid>>>Nor will it 100% prevent you from catching it.

Please: if you post tell us if you have had the vaccine

My body, My choice

Getting a shot of whatever is in that needle, that doesn't work, that you don't want, is what alot of people did. This was mainly as you stated to allow them to travel and that rug was swiftly pulled from under their feet. I'm guessing half the Vaxxed people are so for this reason, a great con by big pharma.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Lockdowns coming near you soon

monomial · Post by **monomial** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:31 pm

You will need to kill me before I will volunteer my body for this biological experiment irresponsibly called a vaccine. Congratulations to all of you who volunteered. Most of us wait to die first before donating our body for scientific experiments. You guys obviously have real courage.

Ivermectin and Zinc once a week and I am better protected than any of you spikey shedders. I have a lower risk of contracting Covid than any of you, and I have zero risk of adverse reactions to the clotshot. I am prepared to go to prison before anyone puts that poison into me. I feel sorry for those of you who may develop long term health complications because you actually believed the ridiculous propaganda being put forward by the WHO and got all jabbed up. Just wait 'til the truth comes out about what we have been going through for the last 2 years.

In 4-5 years, after we have real data about the long term effects of this injection, I may reconsider my position. But for now, it's an absolute, non negotiable "Hell No!" And if you try and mandate it, you will have a serious fight on your hands. If you threaten my life with that jab, you can guess how I will respond.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:53 pm

monomial wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:31 pm

Ivermectin and Zinc once a week and I am better protected than any of you spikey shedders. I have a lower risk of contracting Covid than any of you, and I have zero risk of adverse reactions to the clotshot. I am prepared to go to prison before anyone puts that poison into me. I feel sorry for those of you who may develop long term health complications because you actually believed the ridiculous propaganda being put forward by the WHO and got all jabbed up. Just wait 'til the truth comes out about what we have been going through for the last 2 years.

You're talking about health risks about a one or two time shot while taking ivermectin once a week during an extended period while it's designed and tested for a one or a few day treatment? How long will you do that for?

Have you checked your blood for electrolytes to see if you have a zinc deficiency? Or zinc levels which are too high?

Looks like you're experimenting yourself. Following the other side of the propaganda spectrum.

You remind of a woman I once walked with in the forest. She was freaked out by the idea she'd be bitten by a fox and contract rabies while she smoked half a package during our walk. When talking about the health risk of the cigarettes she told me not to worry.
People's perception of risks.... Interesting.

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:09 pm

I have a friend who goes on and on about the "experimental vaccine" and will not take it. She goes to raves and takes MDMA on a regular basis, i say MDMA nobody knows what is in those Es ironically many of those "rave" drugs come from china.

crob · Post by **crob** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:11 pm

I've been stuck in Sydney lockdown for 3 months now... I miss being able to travel to Asia, going to pub, doing basic shopping at a fucken kmart.... do i agree with a mandate, no, but right now I support whatever lifts these restrictions as fast as possible.

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:14 pm

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@monomial - Of course you know better than the doctors and health specialists. Have confidence in yourself and some random people on the internet and all will be well.

Secret message from outer space:

Spoiler:

This the anti-vax paradox : if you don't want to get vaccinated, then you should be particularly careful not to get infected or to spread infection: use a mask, practice social distancing, don't mix with crowds, and get tested regularly or when you feel ill.
HOWEVER, most of the strident anti-vax people do not want to take even these simple precautions to protect other people. Why is this ?

nemo · Post by **nemo** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:14 pm

monomial wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:31 pm

Ivermectin and Zinc once a week and I am better protected than any of you spikey shedders. I have a lower risk of contracting Covid than any of you, and I have zero risk of adverse reactions to the clotshot. I am prepared to go to prison before anyone puts that poison into me. I feel sorry for those of you who may develop long term health complications because you actually believed the ridiculous propaganda being put forward by the WHO and got all jabbed up. Just wait 'til the truth comes out about what we have been going through for the last 2

If you are not trolling I pity you.

Edit: I see by your past posts you are a Trust The Plan Qtard, so don't care for reality:

So, some new, incredibly damaging information for the Biden campaign. He no longer has any chance of winning this election. His presumptive status of president elect will soon be withdrawn, and it is irrelevant how the lawsuits turn out.

We all know by now of the 6000 votes in Michigan that were termed a "glitch" and downplayed as a simple administrative error. Well, it now turns out that live stream recordings submitted by people who just happened to DVR election coverage have identified several more glitches in key swing states:

Another 1127 vote "glitch" has been found in Michigan.
2 "glitches" in Pennsylvania. One for 19,958 votes and one for 32,615 votes. Together, these erase Biden's 45,000 vote lead, and give Trump Pennsylvania by 60,000 votes.
2 "glitches" in Wisconsin. One for 13,400 votes and one for 9,516 votes. As Biden is only ahead by 20,000 votes in Wisconsin, these 2 glitches will give Trump the state by 25,000 votes.
1 "glitch" so far in Georgia for 1902 votes. This will cut Biden's lead in Georgia in half. If another such "glitch" can be found and confirmed, Georgia will disappear from Biden's column as well.

So what are these "glitches"? Are they really just administrative errors? No, in fact. It turns out this "glitch" system is actually a well known mechanism for systemic election fraud committed by the Democratic party.

And this gem:

I will throw out that the most likely answer is that someone on the China side is actually working with Trump. Possibly even Xi himself. What if a group inside the government in China is as sick of CCP control as the Americans are of the deep state, shadow government? If the US military can engineer a massive psy-op on this scale to disgorge the deep state, isn't it also possible that a similar movement could be underfoot in China?

We are living through the most exciting time in all of history right now. I am really on the edge of my seat waiting to see what is going to happen next. The only thing I know for sure is that absolutely nothing is what it appears. If you are one of those people who hate Trump from the very depths of your soul, ask yourself why. Did you ever personally met the man? Most people who have say he is nothing like the media portrays. So do you really hate Trump, or do you hate the caricature the media has created about him? When you hate a character in a movie, do you also immediately hate the actor, or are you smart enough to recognize that the 2 of them are not the same thing?

As to why some people choose such nonsense:

HOWEVER, most of the strident anti-vax people do not want to take even these simple precautions to protect other people. Why is this ?

Dunning- Kruger Effect.

violet · Post by **violet** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:23 pm

monomial wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:31 pm You will need to kill me before I will volunteer my body for this biological experiment irresponsibly called a vaccine. Congratulations to all of you who volunteered. Most of us wait to die first before donating our body for scientific experiments. You guys obviously have real courage.

Ivermectin and Zinc once a week and I am better protected than any of you spikey shedders. I have a lower risk of contracting Covid than any of you, and I have zero risk of adverse reactions to the clotshot. I am prepared to go to prison before anyone puts that poison into me. I feel sorry for those of you who may develop long term health complications because you actually believed the ridiculous propaganda being put forward by the WHO and got all jabbed up. Just wait 'til the truth comes out about what we have been going through for the last 2 years.

In 4-5 years, after we have real data about the long term effects of this injection, I may reconsider my position. But for now, it's an absolute, non negotiable "Hell No!" And if you try and mandate it, you will have a serious fight on your hands. If you threaten my life with that jab, you can guess how I will respond.

As already said, you too are experimenting. You won’t take a vaccine that millions (billions?) worldwide have had but you’ll use something that has barely been tested for human use?

Humans really are baffling

xandreu · Post by **xandreu** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:51 pm

I think mandatory vaccines are the only way through this mess.

However, the thought of someone screaming and fighting and having to be forcibly held down, having committed no crime, while the state injects something into them that is 100% against their wishes chills me to the bone, so unfortunately, I have to go with no, I don't agree with mandatory vaccines, but I do wish people would get them off of their own free will.

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