WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
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WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
It seems that two Cambodian lesbians have gotten married in Cambodia yesterday. Is this even legal? Is it the first? I don't know about gay rights in Cambodia, but I would have assumed this was illegal.
Congrats to them and a beautiful wedding!
Google Translate:
Because of the overwhelming love two girls voluntarily married
On the morning of 12 October 2014 in the village ponds dont Kampong Chhnang district councils female gay couple decided factory hands to build a future family and the devotion of love. Although that decision wedding this walks out of the law of marriage of the country and face discrimination, however, it is the testimony of a nature that makes you both loyal love culminates thngaichaulrong This was conducted, there were a large number attended the wedding.
Women who call themselves The groom in day marriage name Suu staff Lin, 18, who father is Swedish Sovann, 53, and mother named Pa Sok Ry, 56, lives near Khsam City Chhnang Province. Separate women as bride named Harmon September, 18, father Richmond welfare, 64, and mother named U Touch, 66, lived District, Kandal Province.
Guardian sides told that moving forward to their wedding between his son both are made by agreement of both sides without coercion is the two in love and money into this marriage. Before reaching day marry this woman who groom named Su staff Lin told parents to enter on fiance named Harmon September after about fiance for more than 1 month to reach day marriage to marry them is made in the tradition Khmer There ceremony tied haircut march gifts and the latest software that is inviting drink restaurant food 200.
The third day is women, a groom and bride these two did not tell anything long, just said what was apparently up now is the decision together to build the future, a family to describe the nature of love overwhelming between the two of them had to shake forward with them both do not care about discrimination in society, but the contrary, they were both recovering face social problems and propose them and others as gay have rights like everyone in the society.
កំពង់ឆ្នាំង ៖ នៅព្រឹកថ្ងៃទី១២ ខែតុលា ឆ្នាំ២០១៤ នៅភូមិត្រពាំងចឹក្សា សង្កាត់កំពង់ឆ្នាំង ក្រុងកំពង់ឆ្នាំង នារីស្រឡាញ់ ភេទដូចគ្នាមួយគូ បានសម្រេចចិត្ត កាន់ដៃគ្នាចូលរោង ដើម្បីកសាងអនាគតគ្រួសារ និងបង្ហាញ ពីភក្តីភាពនៃក្តីស្នេហ៍ ។ បើទោះបីថាការសម្រេច រៀបអាពាហ៍ពិពាហ៍នេះ បានប្រាស់ចាក ពីច្បាប់នៃរៀប អាពាហ៍ពិពាហ៍ របស់ប្រទេសកម្ពុជា និង ប្រឈមនឹងការរើសអើង យ៉ាងណា ក៏ដោយ តែវាជាសក្ខីភាព មួយនៃធម្មជាតិដែលធ្វើអោយអ្នក ទាំងពីរមានភក្តីស្នេហ៍ រហូតឈានដល់ ថ្ងៃចូលរោងការនេះ ត្រូវបានធ្វើឡើង ដែលមានមនុស្ស យ៉ាងច្រើនកុះករ បានចូលរួម ពិធីមង្គលការនេះ ។
នារីដែលតាំងខ្លួនជាកូនកម្លោះ ក្នុងថ្ងៃរៀបមង្គលការនោះឈ្មោះ ស៊ូ លិលីន អាយុ១៨ឆ្នាំ ដែលមាន ឪពុកឈ្មោះ ស៊ុយ សុវណ្ណ អាយុ៥៣ ឆ្នាំ និងម្តាយឈ្មោះ ប៉ា សុខរី អាយុ៥៦ឆ្នាំ រស់នៅ សង្កាត់ខ្សាម ក្រុងកំពង់ឆ្នាំង ខេត្តកំពង់ឆ្នាំង ។ដោយឡែក នារីជាកូនក្រមុំឈ្មោះ ម៉ុន កញ្ញា អាយុ ១៨ឆ្នាំ ឪពុកឈ្មោះ ម៉ុន សុខុម អាយុ៦៤ឆ្នាំ និងម្តាយឈ្មោះ អ៊ូ ទូច អាយុ៦៦ឆ្នាំ រស់នៅស្រុកស្អាង ខេត្តកណ្តាល ។
អាណាព្យាបាលទាំងសងខាងបានប្រាប់អោយដឹងថា ការឈានចូលដល់ថ្ងៃរៀប អាពាហ៍ពិពាហ៍រវាង កូនគាត់ទាំងពីរនេះ គឺបានធ្វើឡើង ដោយមានការឯកភាពគ្នាទាំងសងខាង ដោយមិនមានការបង្ខិតបង្ខំ គឺកូនទាំងពីរនាក់ នេះបានស្រឡាញ់គ្នា ហើយបានរកលុយ ចូលគ្នាបានរៀបការនេះ ។ មុនពេល ដែលឈាន ដល់ថ្ងៃរៀបការនេះ ខាងនារីដែលតាំងខ្លួនជាកូនកម្លោះ ឈ្មោះ ស៊ូ លិលីន បានប្រាប់ ម្តាយឪពុកអោយចូលស្តី ដណ្តឹង ឈ្មោះ ម៉ុន កញ្ញា ក្រោយពីការស្តីដណ្តឹងរយៈពេលជាង១ខែ ទើបឈានដល់ថ្ងៃរៀបអាពាហ៍ពិពាហ៍ ការរៀប មង្គលការពួកគេ គឺធ្វើឡើងតាមប្រពៃណី ទំនៀមទំលាប់ខ្មែរ មានពិធីសែនព្រេន ចងដៃ កាត់សក់ ហែជំនូន ហើយ កម្មវិធី ចុងក្រោយនោះ គឺអញ្ជើញភ្ញៀវពិសាភោជនីអាហារចំនួន ២០០នាក់ ។
នៅក្នុងថ្ងៃនោះដែរ នារីដែលជាកូនកម្លោះ និងកូនក្រមុំទាំងពីរនាក់នេះ មិនបានប្រាប់អ្វីវែងឆ្ងាយនោះទេ គ្រាន់តែ បាននិយាយថា អ្វីដែល បានស្តែងឡើងនាពេលនេះ គឺជាការសម្រេចចិត្តរួមគ្នា ក្នុងការកសាង អនាគតគ្រួសារមួយ ដើម្បីបង្ហាញអំពីធម្មជាតិ នៃក្តីស្រឡាញ់ ដ៏លើសលប់រវាង ពួកគេ ទាំងពីរនាក់ ក្នុងការចាប់ដៃគ្នាឆ្ពោះទៅមុខ ដោយពួក គេទាំងពីរនាក់មិនខ្វល់ពីការរើសអើងក្នុងសង្គមនោះទេ ប៉ុន្តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញ ពួកគេទាំងពីរនាក់ ងើបឡើង ប្រឈមនឹងបញ្ហាសង្គម និងស្នើអោយពួកគេមាន និងអ្នកផ្សេងទៀត ដែលជាអ្នក ស្រលាញ់ភេទដូចគ្នា មានសិទ្ធិដូចមនុស្សគ្រប់គ្នានៅក្នុងសង្គមផងដែរ ៕
http://www.khmerload.com/news/31662
Congrats to them and a beautiful wedding!
Google Translate:
Because of the overwhelming love two girls voluntarily married
On the morning of 12 October 2014 in the village ponds dont Kampong Chhnang district councils female gay couple decided factory hands to build a future family and the devotion of love. Although that decision wedding this walks out of the law of marriage of the country and face discrimination, however, it is the testimony of a nature that makes you both loyal love culminates thngaichaulrong This was conducted, there were a large number attended the wedding.
Women who call themselves The groom in day marriage name Suu staff Lin, 18, who father is Swedish Sovann, 53, and mother named Pa Sok Ry, 56, lives near Khsam City Chhnang Province. Separate women as bride named Harmon September, 18, father Richmond welfare, 64, and mother named U Touch, 66, lived District, Kandal Province.
Guardian sides told that moving forward to their wedding between his son both are made by agreement of both sides without coercion is the two in love and money into this marriage. Before reaching day marry this woman who groom named Su staff Lin told parents to enter on fiance named Harmon September after about fiance for more than 1 month to reach day marriage to marry them is made in the tradition Khmer There ceremony tied haircut march gifts and the latest software that is inviting drink restaurant food 200.
The third day is women, a groom and bride these two did not tell anything long, just said what was apparently up now is the decision together to build the future, a family to describe the nature of love overwhelming between the two of them had to shake forward with them both do not care about discrimination in society, but the contrary, they were both recovering face social problems and propose them and others as gay have rights like everyone in the society.
កំពង់ឆ្នាំង ៖ នៅព្រឹកថ្ងៃទី១២ ខែតុលា ឆ្នាំ២០១៤ នៅភូមិត្រពាំងចឹក្សា សង្កាត់កំពង់ឆ្នាំង ក្រុងកំពង់ឆ្នាំង នារីស្រឡាញ់ ភេទដូចគ្នាមួយគូ បានសម្រេចចិត្ត កាន់ដៃគ្នាចូលរោង ដើម្បីកសាងអនាគតគ្រួសារ និងបង្ហាញ ពីភក្តីភាពនៃក្តីស្នេហ៍ ។ បើទោះបីថាការសម្រេច រៀបអាពាហ៍ពិពាហ៍នេះ បានប្រាស់ចាក ពីច្បាប់នៃរៀប អាពាហ៍ពិពាហ៍ របស់ប្រទេសកម្ពុជា និង ប្រឈមនឹងការរើសអើង យ៉ាងណា ក៏ដោយ តែវាជាសក្ខីភាព មួយនៃធម្មជាតិដែលធ្វើអោយអ្នក ទាំងពីរមានភក្តីស្នេហ៍ រហូតឈានដល់ ថ្ងៃចូលរោងការនេះ ត្រូវបានធ្វើឡើង ដែលមានមនុស្ស យ៉ាងច្រើនកុះករ បានចូលរួម ពិធីមង្គលការនេះ ។
នារីដែលតាំងខ្លួនជាកូនកម្លោះ ក្នុងថ្ងៃរៀបមង្គលការនោះឈ្មោះ ស៊ូ លិលីន អាយុ១៨ឆ្នាំ ដែលមាន ឪពុកឈ្មោះ ស៊ុយ សុវណ្ណ អាយុ៥៣ ឆ្នាំ និងម្តាយឈ្មោះ ប៉ា សុខរី អាយុ៥៦ឆ្នាំ រស់នៅ សង្កាត់ខ្សាម ក្រុងកំពង់ឆ្នាំង ខេត្តកំពង់ឆ្នាំង ។ដោយឡែក នារីជាកូនក្រមុំឈ្មោះ ម៉ុន កញ្ញា អាយុ ១៨ឆ្នាំ ឪពុកឈ្មោះ ម៉ុន សុខុម អាយុ៦៤ឆ្នាំ និងម្តាយឈ្មោះ អ៊ូ ទូច អាយុ៦៦ឆ្នាំ រស់នៅស្រុកស្អាង ខេត្តកណ្តាល ។
អាណាព្យាបាលទាំងសងខាងបានប្រាប់អោយដឹងថា ការឈានចូលដល់ថ្ងៃរៀប អាពាហ៍ពិពាហ៍រវាង កូនគាត់ទាំងពីរនេះ គឺបានធ្វើឡើង ដោយមានការឯកភាពគ្នាទាំងសងខាង ដោយមិនមានការបង្ខិតបង្ខំ គឺកូនទាំងពីរនាក់ នេះបានស្រឡាញ់គ្នា ហើយបានរកលុយ ចូលគ្នាបានរៀបការនេះ ។ មុនពេល ដែលឈាន ដល់ថ្ងៃរៀបការនេះ ខាងនារីដែលតាំងខ្លួនជាកូនកម្លោះ ឈ្មោះ ស៊ូ លិលីន បានប្រាប់ ម្តាយឪពុកអោយចូលស្តី ដណ្តឹង ឈ្មោះ ម៉ុន កញ្ញា ក្រោយពីការស្តីដណ្តឹងរយៈពេលជាង១ខែ ទើបឈានដល់ថ្ងៃរៀបអាពាហ៍ពិពាហ៍ ការរៀប មង្គលការពួកគេ គឺធ្វើឡើងតាមប្រពៃណី ទំនៀមទំលាប់ខ្មែរ មានពិធីសែនព្រេន ចងដៃ កាត់សក់ ហែជំនូន ហើយ កម្មវិធី ចុងក្រោយនោះ គឺអញ្ជើញភ្ញៀវពិសាភោជនីអាហារចំនួន ២០០នាក់ ។
នៅក្នុងថ្ងៃនោះដែរ នារីដែលជាកូនកម្លោះ និងកូនក្រមុំទាំងពីរនាក់នេះ មិនបានប្រាប់អ្វីវែងឆ្ងាយនោះទេ គ្រាន់តែ បាននិយាយថា អ្វីដែល បានស្តែងឡើងនាពេលនេះ គឺជាការសម្រេចចិត្តរួមគ្នា ក្នុងការកសាង អនាគតគ្រួសារមួយ ដើម្បីបង្ហាញអំពីធម្មជាតិ នៃក្តីស្រឡាញ់ ដ៏លើសលប់រវាង ពួកគេ ទាំងពីរនាក់ ក្នុងការចាប់ដៃគ្នាឆ្ពោះទៅមុខ ដោយពួក គេទាំងពីរនាក់មិនខ្វល់ពីការរើសអើងក្នុងសង្គមនោះទេ ប៉ុន្តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញ ពួកគេទាំងពីរនាក់ ងើបឡើង ប្រឈមនឹងបញ្ហាសង្គម និងស្នើអោយពួកគេមាន និងអ្នកផ្សេងទៀត ដែលជាអ្នក ស្រលាញ់ភេទដូចគ្នា មានសិទ្ធិដូចមនុស្សគ្រប់គ្នានៅក្នុងសង្គមផងដែរ ៕
http://www.khmerload.com/news/31662
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Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
Quite a fair number barangs present for a country wedding. I wonder if this was some liberal NGO's idea. In any case, I do not know about the legality either, but a formal recognition is contrary to traditional beliefs. Also I noticed there were no Buddhist priests in the photos, was this some liberal Christian ceremony. Look out Berkley here comes Cambodia.
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Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
Actually, no. There was a lesbian wedding back in the early 90s.
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Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
More info:
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/lift/same-same-married
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/lift/same-same-married
In 1995 two women were allowed to legally marry in Kandal province, a unique occurrence in a country where gay marriage is outlawed. Khav Sokha, who married another woman named Pum Eth, said in an interview with The Phnom Penh Post, “The authorities thought it was strange, but they agreed to tolerate it because I have three children already (from a previous marriage). They said that if we were both single (and childless), we would not be allowed to get married because we could not produce children”. Thus, it is a fully-acknowledged marriage, with official approval, and there was not really any reaction to it. According to coverage in The Phnom Penh Post in 1996, the wedding was a popular event, with 250 people coming to the ceremony and partying, including Buddhist monks and high officials from the province.
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Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
Thanks for that extra info mekongmouse. It appears however that neither of the partners had children in this union. Frankly, I have no opinion one way or the other, but I know that in the village where I live, such a wedding would be seen as theater, not civil law.
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Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
Any idea which one of them plays the butch masculine role?
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Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
Maybe neither? Maybe they are just themselves?
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Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
Also found this while trying to find the article about the 90s marriage:
Interesting stuff.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/l ... s-marryingSrorn said some gay couples have lived together for more than 40 years, and he knows that at least 15 have obtained marriage certificates – documents that identify one recipient as the “husband” and the other as the “wife”.
According to Article 6 of the current Marriage Law, signed in 1989, “Marriage shall be prohibited to a person whose sex is the same sex as the other.”
It also prohibits marriage to “a person whose penis is impotent”, those suffering from “leprous, tuberculosis, cancerous or venereal diseases, which are not completely cured” along with the “insane” and those possessing “mental defect”.
The 1993 Constitution, on the other hand, is light on such specifics, saying simply that individuals have the right to choose their partners, and it seems that growing numbers of local authorities are focusing on this more expansive understanding of marriage, said Srorn.
Interesting stuff.
Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
That little ugly dwarf must be the "groom":
That pants, that shoes and that jacket...........JE-SUS.
That pants, that shoes and that jacket...........JE-SUS.
Und der Haifisch der hat Tränen
Und die laufen vom Gesicht
Doch der Haifisch lebt im Wasser
So die Tränen sieht man nicht
In der Tiefe ist es einsam
Und so manche Träne fliesst
Und so kommt es dass das Wasser
In den Meeren salzig ist
Und die laufen vom Gesicht
Doch der Haifisch lebt im Wasser
So die Tränen sieht man nicht
In der Tiefe ist es einsam
Und so manche Träne fliesst
Und so kommt es dass das Wasser
In den Meeren salzig ist
Re: WoW! Is This the First Gay/Lesbian Wedding in Cambodia?
I'm against marriage equality. Not that I have anything against homosexuals. Just in my experience (and 50%+ of others) that marriage is a horrid thing that only ends in divorce or death. Therefore why the Fuck do people want it? There is no happy way out
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