Work Permits fo Foreigners(again)

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In the other thread on this subject I posted the translation (and a link to the french article) on what was told to the Directorate General of Cambodian Immigration at the French Embassy (I think is how that reads... I don't read french and google translate is google translate):

https://cambodiaexpatsonline.com/viewtop ... =30#p28393

Essentially it comes down to only people working, investing or operating a business need it and for those who haven't had it there is no retroactive enforcement taking place. This is a moving forward only situation. People who are self employed (for example, a small homestay business) apparently are a concern (income without taxation) but not a major one at the moment.

Edit: Rereading that, I'm not sure about the self-employment thing if you own a registered Cambodian business as a shareholder. It seems to only apply to freelancer type self employed. From the seeming conflict of "freelancer, who would be a 100% owner, has to pay" vs "shareholder does not have to pay" i'm sure there's going to be some nuanced technicality that no one involved ever really understands and arbitrarily wants to enforce. The safe bet may be getting one regardless.
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Yes, I read that article; it is simply a matter of who to believe-someone well placed in the French Embassy or a spokesman from the ministries of labor and interiors. " In July, the ministries of labour and interior announced their intention to begin enforcing laws requiring foreign workers and expatriates to hold work permits. Time will tell, thank your for your input.

Re: phuketrichard who wondered if I had enough money for the fine. Most likely but for reasons stated the money belongs to my family. As for native country my retirement funds are insufficient to live there plus I have no living family there nor friends. I have been abroad many many years. I am quite old, certainly too old to find meaningful work.
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Taa;
your part of your family, IF they come looking for you,( or nab ya when u try to renew ur extension) pay the fine ...

It may all come to nothing or..... just wait an see but be prepared to pay

I have been out of the states over 35 years out of the past 38 yet America is still my home
but i wont be living there anytime soon as i have a big enough nest egg ( unless i live to be 100)
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"( unless i live to be 100). Well, I certainly hope you make it, in fact I also hope that Cambodia doesn't become transmogrified into a parking lot for Thailand and Vietnam by that time. Thanks for your concern.
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just up on my facebook
...but my Cambodian friends say it doesn't say anything about the past, only it cost $100 for a one year work permit. They could not find anything in English and it took them a while to find it in Khmer. Immigration had everything written out nicely but labor took a long time to even find that line. They also showed me another page that had prices for this years fee but that was even clearer. I have read the French Embassy is saying we don't need to pay for the past and you say its a one time fine of 400,000 r which is way better than they are telling me.
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"you say its a one time fine of 400,000 r which is way better than they are telling me." you're confused I never quoted a price of my own. Perhaps a quote from a newspaper, but not one of my inventions. Also, our family lives in the "new" gerrymandered province of Tbong Kmum. Plus the corrupt money my wife is supposed to pay for her home stay license is now 300,000 r as opposed to $15 paid for previous licenses. The new province is clearly funding itself on the backs of honest workers. I've had it in this country with no future.
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so ur going to pack up ur wife an kids an move to Vietnam?>
sorry meant Philippines
sounds like a great idea

I guess thats one way to get out of paying for a wp ( even though u dont work)
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I never said that either. Neither of us knows what's going down with the govt.
My decision will be based on their greed which is legendary. But until the shit hits the fan, I'm merely exploring options none of which currently include Vietnam.
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My understanding Loak Taa is that you live a quiet and simple life in the province with you wife/gf and family. You have lived there for severals years, after living in PP teaching at a well known school.
You seem to be concerned that the authorities, when issuing your next visa, will hit you up for a work permit which you don't need.

In my opinion, I would think that if you have any trouble getting your next visa that you should be able to get a letter from you village chief stating that you live there and support a family, and you do not work. Keep in mind that there is some chatter about them eventually making Retiree visas.

If I'm wrong, then is the time to pack your bags for PI. Not before.
You're wife/gf and family won't like PI.





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taabarang wrote:I never said that either. Neither of us knows what's going down with the govt.
My decision will be based on their greed which is legendary. But until the shit hits the fan, I'm merely exploring options none of which currently include Vietnam.
sorry i meant Philippines.
do u think thats the best for ur Cambodia wife and 2 kids to put them in another 3rd world country where they have no friends, no family, dont speak the language and will need to pay for visas.

I think u really need think this thru more
or are u considering leaving them?

Dont expect PI to be any better than where u are.
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