Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

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dnegel22 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:11 pm Hello all

First of all, I make 2550$/m and it does not equal I have that amount to spend on bullshit scammers in Cambodia office. I have to pay housing and loan fees in Finland and after that there is like 600$ left for food and other expenses.

I'm currently in middle of this marriage process. Why we do this, is cause my fiancee didn't get shengen visa to Finland after 2 attempts in Thailand were we met and lived for a year. Marriage in Finland was not possible.

What I write in the fallowing could be missing some information, cause my GF does not speak english that good and they do chat khmer with consultant a lot.
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I got fallowing documents stamped in 3 places before I came Cambodia: Single+marriage permission, criminal record, work sertificate with salary amount, last years tax. I got local notary stamp, then MFFA (Ministry For Foreign Affair), then I had to get Brittish embassy stamp as we don't have relations with Cambodia. Cost for all was aprox.200$ to get all 4 papers stamped properly.

GF has birth sertificate, family tree, single status, marriage permission, own ID, parents ID copy. Photo of me and her in same picture.

Process

We are using consultant to arrange this and handle as much as possible. Agreed fee was 1650$ for everything except visit to her Sangkat. We gave her the documents and she told us that she will take them to MFFA to be checked as result she asked as to provide 15 passport pictures for each ( I did not get explenation where the photos are going even tried to ask) and told us that GF's birth sertifate is new and therefore not good, even it's stamped by officials. Also document for single and permission for marry is not good cause the data is on same document, need to have 2 seperate documents according to them. ( I assume after reading first post, there will be problem with documents in any case to collect extra money for corrupt officials). Additional 300$ needed for process (Fits to the price of "Fastlane"). Also there was information given that problem might accour again at MoI, as writing this I don't know what the fee will be.

I'll try to update post after I get new information
Not sure why you guys didn't get the visa, but no need to go Thailand to get the visa. Just go german embassy in Phnom Penh. Once you have the visa, you can get married in Denmark. Cost like 100 euro. Much cheaper than paying for consultant in Cambodia even if you count flight tickets, hotels etc.
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

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rogerrabbit wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:57 am
dnegel22 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:11 pm Hello all

First of all, I make 2550$/m and it does not equal I have that amount to spend on bullshit scammers in Cambodia office. I have to pay housing and loan fees in Finland and after that there is like 600$ left for food and other expenses.

I'm currently in middle of this marriage process. Why we do this, is cause my fiancee didn't get shengen visa to Finland after 2 attempts in Thailand were we met and lived for a year. Marriage in Finland was not possible.

What I write in the fallowing could be missing some information, cause my GF does not speak english that good and they do chat khmer with consultant a lot.
Documents
I got fallowing documents stamped in 3 places before I came Cambodia: Single+marriage permission, criminal record, work sertificate with salary amount, last years tax. I got local notary stamp, then MFFA (Ministry For Foreign Affair), then I had to get Brittish embassy stamp as we don't have relations with Cambodia. Cost for all was aprox.200$ to get all 4 papers stamped properly.

GF has birth sertificate, family tree, single status, marriage permission, own ID, parents ID copy. Photo of me and her in same picture.

Process

We are using consultant to arrange this and handle as much as possible. Agreed fee was 1650$ for everything except visit to her Sangkat. We gave her the documents and she told us that she will take them to MFFA to be checked as result she asked as to provide 15 passport pictures for each ( I did not get explenation where the photos are going even tried to ask) and told us that GF's birth sertifate is new and therefore not good, even it's stamped by officials. Also document for single and permission for marry is not good cause the data is on same document, need to have 2 seperate documents according to them. ( I assume after reading first post, there will be problem with documents in any case to collect extra money for corrupt officials). Additional 300$ needed for process (Fits to the price of "Fastlane"). Also there was information given that problem might accour again at MoI, as writing this I don't know what the fee will be.

I'll try to update post after I get new information
Not sure why you guys didn't get the visa, but no need to go Thailand to get the visa. Just go german embassy in Phnom Penh. Once you have the visa, you can get married in Denmark. Cost like 100 euro. Much cheaper than paying for consultant in Cambodia even if you count flight tickets, hotels etc.
2 commnets. There are 2 ways of getting married in Denmark. The normal way or you can get a quickie wedding on AERO island which requires less document. You Cambodia wife can also self certify that she is free to marry without need any documents from Cambodia s long as you have an officiel certificate of no imoediments fromyour country. This was the state of play 2 years ago.
2nd point is you can work around the reluctance of Embassies to certify documetns if yoi are from most of the developed countries. Documents can be "apostilled" by lawyers or even the post office in the UK. Once apostilled they are legally accepted in most ofthe world, including Cambodia. Cambodia cannot appostliie documets as it is no a signatorybut they do accept apostilled docuets from abroad. I think the cost at the post office in UK was gbp 80. Sorry this info is nearly 2 years old so you mghtwant o chck up on it
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BR549 wrote:What kind of paperwork and bribes do you need to get rid of the love of your life when she turns out to be a fucking big mistake?
... Is there a Khmer word for this Barang ass fucking?
I have known women all over the world and there is not one worth this bullshit.
If you are always thinking that the love of your life is a mistake waiting to happen, then you haven’t met her yet. The Khmer word for this slow torture process is known as guarantee of future happiness. The woman truly for you will give you uncountable rewards worth any level of bullshit.

I hope you find her someday and experience true happiness that you richly deserve.
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Nothing last forever,

Buddhism teaches us that impermanence is fundamental to everything. From life to health to joy to sorrow to material objects to our very identity, nothing is permanent no matter how much we want it to be
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

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I want to have clarity on one point...

If you are over 50, you can NOT marry a Khmer legally? No way, no how, no amount of 'fixing' can overcome that. Is that correct?

Because if it is, I am having a very good morning...
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

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Doc67 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:12 am I want to have clarity on one point...

If you are over 50, you can NOT marry a Khmer legally? No way, no how, no amount of 'fixing' can overcome that. Is that correct?

Because if it is, I am having a very good morning...

NOT correct, it was changed last year....
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

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phuketrichard wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:19 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:12 am I want to have clarity on one point...

If you are over 50, you can NOT marry a Khmer legally? No way, no how, no amount of 'fixing' can overcome that. Is that correct?

Because if it is, I am having a very good morning...

NOT correct, it was changed last year....
oh bollox... what is the age now?
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Doc67 wrote:
phuketrichard wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:19 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:12 am I want to have clarity on one point...

If you are over 50, you can NOT marry a Khmer legally? No way, no how, no amount of 'fixing' can overcome that. Is that correct?

Because if it is, I am having a very good morning...

NOT correct, it was changed last year....
oh bollox... what is the age now?
The removed the age limit entirely.

You still have to bribe the office of sex trafficking to prove you aren't trying to traffic a khmer lass.
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

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epidemiks wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:50 pm
Doc67 wrote:
phuketrichard wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:19 pm
Doc67 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:12 am I want to have clarity on one point...

If you are over 50, you can NOT marry a Khmer legally? No way, no how, no amount of 'fixing' can overcome that. Is that correct?

Because if it is, I am having a very good morning...

NOT correct, it was changed last year....
oh bollox... what is the age now?
The removed the age limit entirely.

You still have to bribe the office of sex trafficking to prove you aren't trying to traffic a khmer lass.
Well that piece of joyous news was short lived...
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