Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

Post by pczz » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:35 pm

Kammekor wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:42 pm
johnny lightning wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:22 am
Haven't I read previously that it is a hell of a lot easier (and probably cheaper) to just do it in Hong Kong? Or is it not legally recognized here?

Johnny
Last time I went to Hong Kong for a fair I got a seriously discounted airfare of 250 USD (1 person) and paid over 100 USD for a night in a 16 sqm room. I don't think Hong Kong will be cheaper unless you consider it a holiday. Can't comment on the validity of the certificate in the KoW though. Given they're so difficult about providing documents to marry abroad I can imagine there will be problems down that road. But maybe others know it for sure.

Anyone successfully used a wedding certificate with a Cambodian spouse in Cambodia?
For a wedding to be legally vaid here it has to be certieid by MoFA or MOI or both. You will not get the declaration of being single for the girld from the Ministry fora marriage abroad as they are not generalyy recognised. most places in the word will require this document. A few will let your wife sign an affidavit saying she is single but it gets complicated if she has children and is not officially divorced or seperated. the only place i found last year was Aero island in Denmark. But then you got to get her a visa to denmark and when you come bcak you have to somehow persudae the relevant ministry to validate the marriage. As far as i undertsand it they will accept foreign marriages under certain circumstances. For example if you were rescued from Cambodia whe you were 3, grew up in the states, married in th states and came back 10 years later. Not really sure what the point of getting married is in Cambodia. it does not give any useful rights to the man like being able to own land so why...
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

Post by phuketrichard » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:41 pm

if ur married out of Cambodia
why bother getting it notarized for Cambodia.
not like it offers anything over anyone else

HK /Japan you do not need the declaration of being single
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

Post by newkidontheblock » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:48 pm

For the woman, there is a lot of benefit of being married in Cambodia, especially if never before married. Most of the societal pressure is off of her. Basic everyday face saving. Especially if it’s with a foreigner.

If you’re better half is already abroad living with you, then no real difference.
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

Post by beaker » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:15 am

newkidontheblock wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:48 pm
For the woman, there is a lot of benefit of being married in Cambodia, especially if never before married. Most of the societal pressure is off of her. Basic everyday face saving. Especially if it’s with a foreigner.

If you’re better half is already abroad living with you, then no real difference.
When I got married, we went to her home town in Kompong Thom to get her parents permission and that of the dead ancestors via an old woman clairvoyant. After that the head dude of the village and the head of the police came to her parents home talked to us and the parents. Then had us fingerprint some papers paid small money to both guys less than $20. Went to the local wedding place and made appointment to be married a week latter. A week latter we showed up they came and decorated the house brought all the baskets of food offerings etc. The wedding had all the costume changes and picture taking that was documented by newkidontheblock at his resent wedding . Later that evening was the big feed, beer drinking, band playing music and dancing. That was it no MOL, MOI or embassy involved. As far as her family and the whole village are concerned we are married and she is an 'honest woman'. In 11 years no one has ever asked to see any kind of papers. I have no interest to return to the states so no problem there either. The whole process was ~$2000
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

Post by thePeck » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:31 am

newkidontheblock wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:23 am
Although looked down on by some members as giving in the the corruption scheme, I think the fixer route is the way to go.

Pay the fixer. Provide the documents the fixer requests. Minor errors will be fixed. Other stuff might be waived.

And most of all, true love will be proven to that special someone.
I agree with this. That's how I did it and it was still a pain in the ass. We were walked through the process and our fixers person meet us at each place. Gave her the documents, told her where to go and what to say. Less than a month everything was done.

It cost little over a $1k but money well spent to me.
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

Post by RickyBobby » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:10 am

Kammekor wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:42 pm
johnny lightning wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:22 am
Haven't I read previously that it is a hell of a lot easier (and probably cheaper) to just do it in Hong Kong? Or is it not legally recognized here?

Johnny
Last time I went to Hong Kong for a fair I got a seriously discounted airfare of 250 USD (1 person) and paid over 100 USD for a night in a 16 sqm room. I don't think Hong Kong will be cheaper unless you consider it a holiday. Can't comment on the validity of the certificate in the KoW though. Given they're so difficult about providing documents to marry abroad I can imagine there will be problems down that road. But maybe others know it for sure.

Anyone successfully used a wedding certificate with a Cambodian spouse in Cambodia?
I do think you are onto something legit. For 'face' it seems the Khmer are satisfied with a cultural engagement ceremony as a type of social approval process to your cohabitation. In fact, I think they are generally most proud of their Barang, especially if you are not flint.

The rest is legal documents for any other purpose, as in immigration to another country or your repatriation with your bride. In that case, I do believe that you can do it easier in many other countries.

There may be some benefits to your being legally married in KOW, but probably also some disadvantages should things go south. Something to consider.
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Re: Why I think the official procedure to marry a Cambodian is a scam

Post by newkidontheblock » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:33 am

RickyBobby wrote:
Kammekor wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:42 pm
There may be some benefits to your being legally married in KOW, but probably also some disadvantages should things go south. Something to consider.
Disadvantage, like losing the air conditioned bunker that I hide out in a few times a year maybe? (Not even in my name). Not getting an EB Visa? Losing the love of my life? (Ok, that’s a big disadvantage if things go south.)

Advantage. She isn’t viewed as just another Khmer girl being strung along by a foreigner. She gets to keep face, while the wheels of government churn for the visa papers.

Next task, bring her to the west and address her baby fever.
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