Why are serial banned posters allowed back on the forum?

[Clutch Cargo]

Anyway, I say let him post.........as long as it is all above board and everyone is aware that it is him and then we know who we're dealing with.

It's kind of lame for mods and admin to know it is him, but allow the typical scenario play out, yet again, finally culminating in a ban, yet again.

I think part of the fun for him is seeing how long he can fly under the radar. If usernametaken is so sure, after one post, that it is gavinmac, then just make the forum aware of it. Then posters won't waste time under the mistaken assumption that they're dealing with a genuine, new poster. And posters can act accordingly, depending on their relationship with gavinmac.

I feel if that happens, gavinmac will either lose interest, or will become more of a productive poster.

Either way, CEO wins.

It def makes sense what you say there Brody but the problem is with the highlights above. I believe CN's posting style cannot be kept 'above board' for long before he returns to his MO of attacking, disrupting and making false allegations. His long history of bans under CN and his several other socks attests to that. I've come to the conclusion that he is incorrigible to be an ongoing member. A classic case here of a leopard doesn't change it's spots..

Indeed, when I came on board as a mod I was surprised how lenient CEO was to his ongoing breaches of forum rules. I guess, as others have mentioned, part of the reasons for that is his posting style can be quite entertaining together with his research contributions and he was a long time member since 2014. However, I have argued on balance in the longer term keeping him on board is detrimental/toxic to this forum. And I might add that for one who loves to get up criminals, shirtless old barangs walking on Riverside and other low lifes, you'd think he'd respect the forum community, what we are trying to do on CEO and abide by the forum rules. But he doesn't..indeed, he sticks his finger up at the community and resumes his MO under the guise of various socks. And even accuses a long time member of pedophilia with no evidence other than baseless suspicions.

So we can continue to play the game of 'whack a mole' with his socks or it'll be a case of letting him operate under his CN username until we have to ban him yet gain when he transgresses...as will be inevitable. I would argue the former is a better way to deal with it for 3 reasons: 1. it's more onerous having to set up these multiple sock accounts on an ongoing basis and he may tire of it 2. he's doing incredible harm to his reputation on CEO via these multiple sock bans 3. he's having to become increasingly desperate/ingenious with his sock creation such that he's needing to deceive and create stories not unlike another banned member seawolf. eg remember trDavid, the blind guy coming to Cambodia with his dog...what a cock and bull story that was..? Again, not helping his case to be allowed back. He's like the spoilt kid that wants to play with the other kids in the sand pit but wants to fling sand around in the other kid's eyes..

Anyway I vote for:

In future, we can have a shoot on sight policy for CN.

Incidentally, we just killed off another one of his socks this morning.

He seemed to have pulled the trigger himself.

What was the point of him joining again when he outs himself with the slightest enquiry?

Because he has a huuge chip on his shoulder about his permaban. And so now at every opportunity where he perceives double standards with modding, he just can't help himself..

As to his claim that I have a long history of making negative comments about Cambodians (and the Chinese). That is ludicrous. Members that follow my posts will know this is untrue. Indeed, and having made the decision to live here, I've been very positive in general about Cambodia and how nice the people are. I've often been critical of those that want to apply their western hat thinking and continually plug how inferior the standards are here. As far as my posts about the chinese in Sihanoukville etc, I standby those in terms of the impact it's had there.

[LIVIDZX]

Have you looked into the newly registered 'xxxxxxxxxx'? Surely a little too obvious but it took him all of two posts before he started acting like a douche.

[Mod edit: This is not a witch hunt. Don't suggest that random posters 'might' be a troll due to their name. PLEASE use the report function if you suspect a troll.]

[DaveG]

^^^

Incidentally, we just killed off another one of his socks this morning.

Who was it, iv missed that one??

[nemo]

The neg karma was at least useful in ranking trolls.

[Skankykins]

From my very limited presence here and TOF I find him highly amusing. Most regular posters take their forum existence far too seriously and really ought to get out more. I like his dry Brit-like humour and particularly admire his meticulousness and tenacity. God forbid anyone should ever fall out with him. 

[Yobbo]

From my very limited presence here and TOF I find him highly amusing. Most regular posters take their forum existence far too seriously and really ought to get out more. I like his dry Brit-like humour and particularly admire his meticulousness and tenacity. God forbid anyone should ever fall out with him. 

Ya had to be a lot thicker skinned in the old 440 days & it gave this forum room to move yet it hasn't seemed of moved far from KIR's ban hammer; of which i believe was to be the greatest motivation for the General & the Orange Dragon to create CEO!
The irony

[Brody]

@clutchcargo

Outstanding points. I'm totally comfortable deferring to those well reasoned arguments.

Anyway now's a good time to voice a hearty 'Huzzah!" to our mod team.

Well done gentlemen.......... I do believe that overall CEO has been experiencing a period of detente, pax romana, period of peace and prosperity the likes of which have not occurred before. At least for this length of time.

I remember (and was part and parcel in) quite a few nasty episodes in the past, and I can't really recall the last time that such unbridled vitriol was spilled across our hallowed pages.

I think that is in no small part, due to our mod team. And CEO is the better for it.

[John Bingham]

I haven't even gotten into the fact that as a signal while male.......he has been frequently visiting Cambodia since at least 2003..........for reasons........well.........I'll just let your imagination wander on that one.

No need to be coy about it, I think he's quite unashamedly a sex tourist.

I agree with everything else you wrote, sums it up nicely.

He is not a lawyer anymore, he's retired. And he has visited every country in the world bar one in the past couple of decades , many multiple times . Just because he visited Cambodia a lot doesn't mean you have to make cliched assumptions about his motives for coming here. Don't forget that those assumptions affect every one of us who has decided to make this their home, whether they have any basis or not.

[simon.sayed]

I got no idea what all this is about but you do seem to take this trash too serious. Aren't most you not even in the country right now?

Whats the drama with a news website from Australia who stalking the owner, who seems to be in US?

[Brody]

He is not a lawyer anymore, he's retired. And he has visited every country in the world bar one in the past couple of decades , many multiple times . Just because he visited Cambodia a lot doesn't mean you have to make cliched assumptions about his motives for coming here. Don't forget that those assumptions affect every one of us who has decided to make this their home, whether they have any basis or not.

Retired or not makes no difference, he still has access to law libraries, electronic databases, etc. He may very well keep his law license active and he just chooses to not take on new clients or be a partner in a firm.

It's an earned advanced degree, retired or not, lawyers still put JD after their name. My father is a retired doctor still gets called Dr. and sometimes puts MD or Dr. on paperwork.

Come off it JB............"deciding to make this their home" , as I have, and visiting a place multiple times a year for almost 2 decades, for no discernible reason, are two entirely different kettle of fish.

What people assume about gavinmac's motivations has no affect on me. I am married with children and live here permanently.