Where to Report Siem Reap Falcon Seller ?

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publish the sellers face on FB

they hate negative publicity use that
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j57 wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:03 pm What do Khmer people do with a falcon?
The Europeans and Middle Easterners have been using them for sport for thousands of years. I presume so have Asians.
Surely, they don't eat them and are trying to sell them to collectors?
At my place in Kansas, I have falcons and hawks and even bald eagles since ddt was banned.
a lesson learned that nearly wiped out birds of prey.
Nothing more majestic than to watch one soar on the hunt. I love to watch them.
Why is she labeled some kind of menace?
Perhaps, she is saving the species.
I am just curious.
I love owls especially, 4 different owls at my old place....you hear them more than see them.
packs of crows come during the day and attack their nests...I never cared for crows since I was a boy watching these assaults.
She has a cage of young falcons...So, did she raise them? find a nest and capture them?
interesting story for a change of pace.
Not far from my apartment...
Be wonderful to see them soar across the sky.
Yes the same, sport or hunting, Khmer guys I met not long ago. There is a club in Phnom Penh, male and female bird here, cost per bird $1500 from Thailand.

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Great photos and find Andy.
I am not a hunter myself but i can understand those that do. (sometimes!)

These are not native hawks ^^ i looked them up when you first posted about them before - cant find the post now or the ID, but they are a Sth/central American species which are favoured for hunting.

There are some exceptions to legally keeping local birds captive here - for "merit freeing" eg. But i doubt it is legal to use native species, certainly not wild caught birds, for hunting.
Not sure what birds Khmer Hawk Master's use (see previous page). But probably all legal.
Maybe your friends ^^^ are members of this group.

To answer part of your question J57 - Raptors and all "power" animals are favoured by many khmer BigBoys as a status symbol. Keeping or eating them is a totemic way of absorbing their power.
Also just to be show-offs.
Some Khmers of all classes also like to keep birds and animals just because they like them. Pretty much the same as everywhere. Fortunately greater awareness in most civilised places about the cost to the animals, and to the species preservation, has greatly reduced this practice. Including in Cambodia. (except by the very rich/powerful. Ravensnest's Phnom Penh gibbons for example)
I could take a shot at USA for still allowing all kinds of animals to be kept by random individuals - but instead i will express my admiration for the interest and care that you show about wildlife in your post above.
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:43 pm Flocking Phew!!
Sorted. Birds seized and safe.

Now i just have to repair my relationships with Wildlife Alliance. LOL
I sent them increasingly strident rockets - but they keep super secret until the raids/seizures have been conducted.
Bastards :mrgreen: nearly gave me a seizure myself.

I will try to get some details.
Thanks everybody who offered support and interest.

(and apologise to Wildlife Alliance for inferring they were not up to it - they were, with boots on)
My hat’s off to you sir (and the Op), it just shows what public spirit, determination & dedication can achieve. Here’s hoping these birds are safely released back into the wild (& remain there)
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Chad Sexington wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:57 am public spirit, determination & dedication can achieve.
Well said, Hanging Chads.

No 'hats off' to me - it was the original FB poster that deserves first prize. Then CEONews for picking it up here.
Then there are the birders like yourself and Hanno who give us hard-core facts (even in the ID debate)

Wildlife Alliance did not do the actual bust - they work closely with The Angkor Centre for Conservation of Biodiversity (ACCB) which made this seizure.
These organisations could not exist without community interest and support - and they are a reflection of all of us who care.
So yes - a successful community wide effort. We need more of that!!

If anybody wants to visit the Siam Reap based ACCB maybe they could take some photos and send us a report on these birds progress.
http://www.accb-cambodia.org/en/index.php
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:55 am
I could take a shot at USA for still allowing all kinds of animals to be kept by random individuals - but instead i will express my admiration for the interest and care that you show about wildlife in your post above.
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Take your shot dude, based on your generalized statment, this should be good.
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Sorry Wild, ^^^ not in the mood for a fight, certainly not here. That comment of mine was just meant as a light-hearted comment, but it was probably not wise. The main message of this thread is about working together, finding similarities for the sake of our endangered wildlife.
You have posted a few good comments about your appreciation for nature too, i note.
Let's stick to that note on this thread. Got any good bird stories?
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:23 am . Got any good bird stories?
You mean like Raptor Rehab stories when I was living in Alaska? Bald Eagles are nasty. Swoop right down and get your fish if they are in the mood.
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Yes yes Wild ^^^ stories like that. Fab.
Fishing for what? Salmon?
Ever had a bear try to take a fish from you?
Have you heard about the elusive "blue" bears of Alaska?

Sorry i know this thread is supposed to be about birds, but when you mentioned Alaska i always think of this story - full of mystery, science, adventure and most of all, the call of insatiable curiosity some of us have - to understand "the wild".
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/167 ... _Blue_Bear
The Blue Bear
With a body twisted by adolescent scoliosis and memories of the brutal death of a woman he loved, Lynn Schooler kept the world at arm's length, drifting through the wilds of Alaska as a commercial fisherman, outdoorsman, and wilderness guide. In 1990, Schooler met Japanese photographer Michio Hoshino, and began a profound friendship cemented by a shared love of adventure
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WildA wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:22 pm
SternAAlbifrons wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:32 pm Reported
Hoping for speedy action.
- let's hope somebody is available right now.
Dude should have bought them all and taken them to the cops.
The police would have said thanks very much and put the barbie on
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