Samouth wrote: i wonder if there are any campaigns in USA to tell American to hate Russian?

No need, they can just be themselves and that will be the result.

MekongMouse wrote:

Samouth wrote: i wonder if there are any campaigns in USA to tell American to hate Russian?

No need, they can just be themselves and that will be the result.

Hey what made so many Russians to hate America and vice versa ?

Username Taken wrote:

Samouth wrote:Hey what made so many Russians to hate America and vice versa ?

Lol, pretty much but 80s track suits plays a role too.

Samouth wrote:

MekongMouse wrote:

Samouth wrote: i wonder if there are any campaigns in USA to tell American to hate Russian?

No need, they can just be themselves and that will be the result.

Hey what made so many Russians to hate America and vice versa ?

It was a case of Capitalist and Communist ideologies clashing:

"In 1945, the United States and Soviet Union were allies, jointly triumphant in World War II, which ended with total victory for Soviet and American forces over Adolf Hitler's Nazi empire in Europe. Within just a few years, however, wartime allies became mortal enemies, locked in a global struggle—military, political, economic, ideological—to prevail in a new "Cold War."

How did wartime friends so quickly turn into Cold War foes?

Who started the Cold War?

Classical view

In the early days of the Cold War itself, American historians would have answered, nearly unanimously, that the Soviets started the Cold War. Josef Stalin was an evil dictator, propelled by an evil Communist ideology to attempt world domination. Appeasement hadn't worked against Hitler, and appeasement wouldn't work against Stalin either. An innocent America had only reluctantly joined the Cold War to defend the Free World from otherwise inevitable totalitarian conquest.

Revisionist view

In this revisionist view, Stalin may have been a Machiavellian despot but he was an essentially conservative one; he was more interested in protecting the Soviet Union (and his own power within it) than in dominating the world. Americans erroneously interpreted Stalin's legitimate insistence upon a security buffer in Poland to indicate a desire for global conquest; Americans' subsequent aggressive efforts to contain Soviet influence, to intimidate the Soviets with the atomic bomb, and to pursue American economic interests around the globe were primarily responsible for starting the Cold War.

More recently, a school of historians led by Yale professor John Lewis Gaddis have promoted what they call a "post-revisionist synthesis," incorporating many aspects of the revisionist critique while still insisting that Stalin, as a uniquely powerful and uniquely malevolent historical actor, must bear the greatest responsibility for the Cold War.

In the end, it may be that "Who started the Cold War?" is simply the wrong question to ask. World War II destroyed all other major rivals to American and Soviet power; the US and USSR emerged from the conflict as the only two nations on earth that could hope to propagate their social and political systems on a global scale. Each commanded powerful military forces; each espoused globally expansive ideologies; each feared and distrusted the other. In the end, it may have been more shocking if the two superpowers had not become great rivals and Cold War enemies." http://www.shmoop.com/causes-of-cold-war/summary.html

Kuroneko wrote: It was a case of Capitalist and Communist ideologies clashing:

Good historical explanation, but I think today's conflict is not so much rooted in the cold war .. but in other factors. The communist/capitalist ideology war has largely vanished.

1) Russia's support of Iran and Syria -- in order to counterbalance USA hegemony in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States. This has pissed off Israel (desperate for war in Iran) and by extension the USA.

2) EU and IMF attempts to expand influence eastward towards Russian borders -- either through eventual membership or political and economic influence. Energy rich Kazakastan is almost totally owned by BP now (Greg Palast writes a lot about the corruption that led to this). Then we had Georgia. Then the "West" finally pushed Russia to far by financing Neo-Nazi groups in the Ukraine to overthrow the Russia-Friendly government in favor of one handpicked by the IMF.

I am actually quite sympathetic to Russia's stance on these issues. I do not agree some random russian chick in a minivan has any right to attack me simply for being an American though.

Cheers,

RD

Rain Dog wrote:I do not agree some random russian chick in a minivan has any right to attack me simply for being an American though.

If she's hot and wearing stilettos and a corset (or nothing), I'll play American.

vladimir wrote:

Rain Dog wrote:I do not agree some random russian chick in a minivan has any right to attack me simply for being an American though.

If she's hot and wearing stilettos and a corset (or nothing), I'll play American.

Well you might have to bring your own stilettos and corset ... and maybe settle for "sloppy seconds" after the general ...

but here you go .....

Oh, fuckski, I'm going monk/gay

No wonder they drink so much vodka

Samouth wrote:i read all the comments here, but i declined to give my opinions on this. Actually, both countries historically had relationship with Cambodia. Russian built a lot of infrastructures in Cambodia for example the university i am currently studying, soviet hospital and some roads, on the other hand, USA also built a lot of infrastructures in Cambodia, like National Road Number 4, etc. i am neither Russian nor America pro, so i don't think it is a good idea to give judgement between the two countries. I believe that there are good American and bad American and similarly there are good Russian and bad Russian.

To put it really simply, for a long time during the 20th century, there were 2 contenders for Top Dog or World Chief: the USSR (as it was) and the US. In order to spend lots of money on weapons, each country told it's people that the other country was full of evil people who want to take over the world.
Things have changed now, but for both countries it is useful to have an enemy - even if it is not a true threat to the country.It is always useful to be able to blame your problems on someone else.

Russians who travel also lack social graces because they are not used to having to deal politely with people who think differently. (Note the diplomatic way that the rich and powerful resolve their differences in Sihanoukville with violence and lawsuits.)