Whats good about Phnom Penh?

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Re: Whats good about PP?

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John Bingham wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:26 pm What's good about PNH?
We get good trolls here.

EDIT: COL means cost of living, and QOL means quality of life. It would be pretty annoying and inconvenient to have to repeatedly type that out across EXPAT forums, platforms, and other blogging sites on a regular basis.
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Re: Whats good about PP?

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Kuroneko wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:55 pm
Toxic Turtle wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:55 am Whats good about PP?

Outside of the bars and tourist attractions, is it so underdeveloped?

Whats a "normal" day/life in the City of PP?
Normal life in Phnom Penh depends on many things, employment interests etc. The residents in my condo are Chinese, Khmer and Thai, they jump in their cars in the morning and commute and keep themselves to themselves. I might see a few of them around the pool in the evening or at weekend.

Phnom Penh is very well developed with respect to property, restaurants, wine bars and general amenities. Imported French wine and foods are available easily and at reasonable cost. There are a few top class hospitals and dental facilities available, which is important.

What follows is partially a cut and paste of my reply to a similar thread on TOF, and my perspective on living here. I lived in Thailand for a while in the '80's and moved to work in Phnom Penh in 1996. I have lived in most areas of the city and for the last five years I moved to the Chroy changvar peninsular on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, it is very quiet and, scenic and only about 5 kilometres outside the city. It take about ten or fifteen minutes to get to the riverside, or central market by moto, and not much longer to get to many of the restaurants around the city.

There are a number of good appartments and condos to live, in Chroy Changvar including Mekong Gardens http://www.mekong-gardens.com/ which is on the banks of the Mekong River, Prices start at around $450/m. The Mekong River View http://www.mekongviewtower.com/mekongi/index.htmlprices start about $550/m and Belvue http://bellevueservicedapartments.com/gallery/ Not sure of prices here. There are also other properties listed on the local real estate sites.

I like living in Phnom Penh partially for its French influence.I can get good quality French wine here at very good prices, and imported French foodstuffs such as cassoulet, duck confit, fois gras, and various cheeses at the Thai Houat market at what I regard as reasonable prices. There are a number of bakeries supplying good baguettes, and also suppliers of good English, French and German sausage.

While some parts of Phnom Penh do suffer from gridlock at times if you pick your area it is an easy city to navigate. I moved to Chroy Changvar partly because of easy access to the city. I do about 1000k a month on my moto and rarely have traffic problems. In addition to the many bars, the city is a great place for restaurants and wine bars eg Bouchon http://phnom-penh.leboost-cambodia.com/ ... r-168.html Open Wine restaurant http://www.openwinerestaurant.com/
Whats TOF - a thai forum?

It sounds like you have settled down, are satisfied in contrast to back home, and have found happiness and completion in PP which is nice.
I believe and from what I've seen that younger guys don't fend well in PP very long, so from my experience I'd say their only other best bet might be a smaller, local town but that too could lead to trouble (as we see with the partys, drugs, and hoes on the threads in places like Sihanoukville, etc.,). Such an environment with even greater lack of English and foreigners could spell trouble though for an unconditioned traveler or "expat" to-be.

I lived in a small province for about a month in the phils and really enjoyed that, would wake up late, play at the computer lab and do work during the day, study, and then go two blocks to the beach for the afternoon -was really nice and I miss that lifestyle.

Vlad moved to khmer 220. Don't you guys read the threads there? It's better for his healthy, dont you know it?
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Toxic Turtle wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:59 am
Kuroneko wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:55 pm
Toxic Turtle wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:55 am Whats good about PP?

Outside of the bars and tourist attractions, is it so underdeveloped?

Whats a "normal" day/life in the City of PP?
Normal life in Phnom Penh depends on many things, employment interests etc. The residents in my condo are Chinese, Khmer and Thai, they jump in their cars in the morning and commute and keep themselves to themselves. I might see a few of them around the pool in the evening or at weekend.

Phnom Penh is very well developed with respect to property, restaurants, wine bars and general amenities. Imported French wine and foods are available easily and at reasonable cost. There are a few top class hospitals and dental facilities available, which is important.

What follows is partially a cut and paste of my reply to a similar thread on TOF, and my perspective on living here. I lived in Thailand for a while in the '80's and moved to work in Phnom Penh in 1996. I have lived in most areas of the city and for the last five years I moved to the Chroy changvar peninsular on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, it is very quiet and, scenic and only about 5 kilometres outside the city. It take about ten or fifteen minutes to get to the riverside, or central market by moto, and not much longer to get to many of the restaurants around the city.

There are a number of good appartments and condos to live, in Chroy Changvar including Mekong Gardens http://www.mekong-gardens.com/ which is on the banks of the Mekong River, Prices start at around $450/m. The Mekong River View http://www.mekongviewtower.com/mekongi/index.htmlprices start about $550/m and Belvue http://bellevueservicedapartments.com/gallery/ Not sure of prices here. There are also other properties listed on the local real estate sites.

I like living in Phnom Penh partially for its French influence.I can get good quality French wine here at very good prices, and imported French foodstuffs such as cassoulet, duck confit, fois gras, and various cheeses at the Thai Houat market at what I regard as reasonable prices. There are a number of bakeries supplying good baguettes, and also suppliers of good English, French and German sausage.

While some parts of Phnom Penh do suffer from gridlock at times if you pick your area it is an easy city to navigate. I moved to Chroy Changvar partly because of easy access to the city. I do about 1000k a month on my moto and rarely have traffic problems. In addition to the many bars, the city is a great place for restaurants and wine bars eg Bouchon http://phnom-penh.leboost-cambodia.com/ ... r-168.html Open Wine restaurant http://www.openwinerestaurant.com/
Whats TOF - a thai forum?

It sounds like you have settled down, are satisfied in contrast to back home, and have found happiness and completion in PP which is nice.
I believe and from what I've seen that younger guys don't fend well in PP very long, so from my experience I'd say their only other best bet might be a smaller, local town but that too could lead to trouble (as we see with the partys, drugs, and hoes on the threads in places like Sihanoukville, etc.,). Such an environment with even greater lack of English and foreigners could spell trouble though for an unconditioned traveler or "expat" to-be.

I lived in a small province for about a month in the phils and really enjoyed that, would wake up late, play at the computer lab and do work during the day, study, and then go two blocks to the beach for the afternoon -was really nice and I miss that lifestyle.

Vlad moved to khmer 220. Don't you guys read the threads there? It's better for his healthy, dont you know it?
TOF is 'the other forum'
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Re: Whats good about PP?

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Toxic Turtle wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:41 am
John Bingham wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:26 pm What's good about PNH?
We get good trolls here.

EDIT: COL means cost of living, and QOL means quality of life. It would be pretty annoying and inconvenient to have to repeatedly type that out across EXPAT forums, platforms, and other blogging sites on a regular basis.
i understood what COL/QOL meant n im punch drunk lol
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Jamie_Lambo wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:14 am
Toxic Turtle wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:41 am
John Bingham wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:26 pm What's good about PNH?
We get good trolls here.

EDIT: COL means cost of living, and QOL means quality of life. It would be pretty annoying and inconvenient to have to repeatedly type that out across EXPAT forums, platforms, and other blogging sites on a regular basis.
i understood what COL/QOL meant n im punch drunk lol
can i get a pat on the back plz
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it's close to Vietnam.
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Re: Whats good about PP?

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Jamie_Lambo wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:14 am
Jamie_Lambo wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:14 am
Toxic Turtle wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:41 am
John Bingham wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:26 pm What's good about PNH?
We get good trolls here.

EDIT: COL means cost of living, and QOL means quality of life. It would be pretty annoying and inconvenient to have to repeatedly type that out across EXPAT forums, platforms, and other blogging sites on a regular basis.
i understood what COL/QOL meant n im punch drunk lol
can i get a pat on the back plz
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Re: Whats good about PP?

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takeoman wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:39 am
Jamie_Lambo wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:14 am
Jamie_Lambo wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:14 am
Toxic Turtle wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:41 am
John Bingham wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:26 pm What's good about PNH?
We get good trolls here.

EDIT: COL means cost of living, and QOL means quality of life. It would be pretty annoying and inconvenient to have to repeatedly type that out across EXPAT forums, platforms, and other blogging sites on a regular basis.
i understood what COL/QOL meant n im punch drunk lol
can i get a pat on the back plz
Only if you promise not to hit me back. :hattip:
:D
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Re: Whats good about PP?

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Toxic Turtle wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:59 am
Whats TOF - a thai forum?

TOF is The Other Forum :D
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Re: Whats good about PP?

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Ohh OK. Thanks

Whats good about nam v. Cambo?

I hear, read, and am under the assumption that nam is more poor but also more honest, loving, natural, cleaner, less whores and more family lifestyle and activities - and natural tourist spots v. fabricated in cambo
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