Toxic Turtle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:51 pm mugging are perhaps frequent "in LA" although im not sure what specific countries you are referring to, LA is huge..
but, look at all the OD's, murders, drunk driving accidents, B&E's, and robberies in PP. were you being optimistic, or sarcastic when you mentioned muggings v. PP?

Whats good about PP?

shnoukieBRO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:16 pm I spent a fair amount of time in Panama and a lot of Latin America and was mugged various times

Kayve wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:56 pm

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:55 pm

Toxic Turtle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:55 am Whats good about PP?

Outside of the bars and tourist attractions, is it so underdeveloped?

Whats a "normal" day/life in the City of PP?

Normal life in Phnom Penh depends on many things, employment interests etc. The residents in my condo are Chinese, Khmer and Thai, they jump in their cars in the morning and commute and keep themselves to themselves. I might see a few of them around the pool in the evening or at weekend.

Phnom Penh is very well developed with respect to property, restaurants, wine bars and general amenities. Imported French wine and foods are available easily and at reasonable cost. There are a few top class hospitals and dental facilities available, which is important.

What follows is partially a cut and paste of my reply to a similar thread on TOF, and my perspective on living here. I lived in Thailand for a while in the '80's and moved to work in Phnom Penh in 1996. I have lived in most areas of the city and for the last five years I moved to the Chroy changvar peninsular on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, it is very quiet and, scenic and only about 5 kilometres outside the city. It take about ten or fifteen minutes to get to the riverside, or central market by moto, and not much longer to get to many of the restaurants around the city.

There are a number of good appartments and condos to live, in Chroy Changvar including Mekong Gardens http://www.mekong-gardens.com/ which is on the banks of the Mekong River, Prices start at around $450/m. The Mekong River View http://www.mekongviewtower.com/mekongi/index.htmlprices start about $550/m and Belvue http://bellevueservicedapartments.com/gallery/ Not sure of prices here. There are also other properties listed on the local real estate sites.

I like living in Phnom Penh partially for its French influence.I can get good quality French wine here at very good prices, and imported French foodstuffs such as cassoulet, duck confit, fois gras, and various cheeses at the Thai Houat market at what I regard as reasonable prices. There are a number of bakeries supplying good baguettes, and also suppliers of good English, French and German sausage.

While some parts of Phnom Penh do suffer from gridlock at times if you pick your area it is an easy city to navigate. I moved to Chroy Changvar partly because of easy access to the city. I do about 1000k a month on my moto and rarely have traffic problems. In addition to the many bars, the city is a great place for restaurants and wine bars eg Bouchon http://phnom-penh.leboost-cambodia.com/ ... r-168.html Open Wine restaurant http://www.openwinerestaurant.com/

The bridge is hell

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:42 pm

Kayve wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:56 pm

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:55 pm

Toxic Turtle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:55 am Whats good about PP?

Outside of the bars and tourist attractions, is it so underdeveloped?

Whats a "normal" day/life in the City of PP?

Normal life in Phnom Penh depends on many things, employment interests etc. The residents in my condo are Chinese, Khmer and Thai, they jump in their cars in the morning and commute and keep themselves to themselves. I might see a few of them around the pool in the evening or at weekend.

Phnom Penh is very well developed with respect to property, restaurants, wine bars and general amenities. Imported French wine and foods are available easily and at reasonable cost. There are a few top class hospitals and dental facilities available, which is important.

What follows is partially a cut and paste of my reply to a similar thread on TOF, and my perspective on living here. I lived in Thailand for a while in the '80's and moved to work in Phnom Penh in 1996. I have lived in most areas of the city and for the last five years I moved to the Chroy changvar peninsular on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, it is very quiet and, scenic and only about 5 kilometres outside the city. It take about ten or fifteen minutes to get to the riverside, or central market by moto, and not much longer to get to many of the restaurants around the city.

There are a number of good appartments and condos to live, in Chroy Changvar including Mekong Gardens http://www.mekong-gardens.com/ which is on the banks of the Mekong River, Prices start at around $450/m. The Mekong River View http://www.mekongviewtower.com/mekongi/index.htmlprices start about $550/m and Belvue http://bellevueservicedapartments.com/gallery/ Not sure of prices here. There are also other properties listed on the local real estate sites.

I like living in Phnom Penh partially for its French influence.I can get good quality French wine here at very good prices, and imported French foodstuffs such as cassoulet, duck confit, fois gras, and various cheeses at the Thai Houat market at what I regard as reasonable prices. There are a number of bakeries supplying good baguettes, and also suppliers of good English, French and German sausage.

While some parts of Phnom Penh do suffer from gridlock at times if you pick your area it is an easy city to navigate. I moved to Chroy Changvar partly because of easy access to the city. I do about 1000k a month on my moto and rarely have traffic problems. In addition to the many bars, the city is a great place for restaurants and wine bars eg Bouchon http://phnom-penh.leboost-cambodia.com/ ... r-168.html Open Wine restaurant http://www.openwinerestaurant.com/

The bridge is hell

when i lived over that side in 2008/09 i had the ferry into the city everyday, only 500 reil. Only used my car when i wanted to go into the city at night, which over time grew less and less... ahhh the good ole days LOL

U cant really compare any one city to another for living as we all want different things out of the place we choose to reside.

shnoukieBRO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:16 pm

Toxic Turtle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:51 pm mugging are perhaps frequent "in LA" although im not sure what specific countries you are referring to, LA is huge..
but, look at all the OD's, murders, drunk driving accidents, B&E's, and robberies in PP. were you being optimistic, or sarcastic when you mentioned muggings v. PP?

I spent a fair amount of time in Panama and a lot of Latin America and was mugged various times.like I know that Asia feels a hell of a lot safer but of course Nowhere is "safe" if you choose a risky lifestyle like many foreigners do.

I'm actually on your side. I prefer Latin America over Asia. BTW Please don't use odd abbreviations like COL.etc

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:42 pm

Kayve wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:56 pm

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:55 pm

Toxic Turtle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:55 am Whats good about PP?

Outside of the bars and tourist attractions, is it so underdeveloped?

Whats a "normal" day/life in the City of PP?

Normal life in Phnom Penh depends on many things, employment interests etc. The residents in my condo are Chinese, Khmer and Thai, they jump in their cars in the morning and commute and keep themselves to themselves. I might see a few of them around the pool in the evening or at weekend.

Phnom Penh is very well developed with respect to property, restaurants, wine bars and general amenities. Imported French wine and foods are available easily and at reasonable cost. There are a few top class hospitals and dental facilities available, which is important.

What follows is partially a cut and paste of my reply to a similar thread on TOF, and my perspective on living here. I lived in Thailand for a while in the '80's and moved to work in Phnom Penh in 1996. I have lived in most areas of the city and for the last five years I moved to the Chroy changvar peninsular on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, it is very quiet and, scenic and only about 5 kilometres outside the city. It take about ten or fifteen minutes to get to the riverside, or central market by moto, and not much longer to get to many of the restaurants around the city.

There are a number of good appartments and condos to live, in Chroy Changvar including Mekong Gardens http://www.mekong-gardens.com/ which is on the banks of the Mekong River, Prices start at around $450/m. The Mekong River View http://www.mekongviewtower.com/mekongi/index.htmlprices start about $550/m and Belvue http://bellevueservicedapartments.com/gallery/ Not sure of prices here. There are also other properties listed on the local real estate sites.

I like living in Phnom Penh partially for its French influence.I can get good quality French wine here at very good prices, and imported French foodstuffs such as cassoulet, duck confit, fois gras, and various cheeses at the Thai Houat market at what I regard as reasonable prices. There are a number of bakeries supplying good baguettes, and also suppliers of good English, French and German sausage.

While some parts of Phnom Penh do suffer from gridlock at times if you pick your area it is an easy city to navigate. I moved to Chroy Changvar partly because of easy access to the city. I do about 1000k a month on my moto and rarely have traffic problems. In addition to the many bars, the city is a great place for restaurants and wine bars eg Bouchon http://phnom-penh.leboost-cambodia.com/ ... r-168.html Open Wine restaurant http://www.openwinerestaurant.com/

The bridge is hell

when i lived over that side in 2008/09 i had the ferry into the city everyday, only 500 reil. Only used my car when i wanted to go into the city at night, which over time grew less and less... ahhh the good ole days LOL

U cant really compare any one city to another for living as we all want different things out of the place we choose to reside.

shnoukieBRO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:45 am It's always gonna be interesting comparing Latin America with Asia.

Let's talk about Costs Toxic Turtle? The other thing is that Asia has a safer feel than say Latin America where mugging are frequent