What I wish for on this forum

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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby Soi Dog » Wed May 28, 2014 8:32 pm

taabarang wrote:I hope that readers will distinguish between posts that are requesting information that is necessary to get on with things and those outlandish ones which invite sniping. I remember when: (on that other forum)

1) I wanted to buy a gas fueled oven and received a thesis on why I should use electricity instead. In spite of the fact that I have none.

2) I wanted the name of a bank that would accept US Treasury Dept. checks for retirement and that post was bombarded with tirades against checks which are old fashioned in this age of electronic direct deposit. Even though direct deposit is outlawed in the US to Cambodia. Plus even more tirades by those who knew that my embassy must know(they didn't and don't) and I should ask, as if I hadn't already.

So please, if you don't have an answer, rider pass by. People with questions are probably not as insipidly stupid as you think. They do not need your frivolous wit or irrelevant tirades. If that can be accomplished on this forum it will do wonders for those who dare an honest question as compared to the childish manner those issues were dealt with on that "other forum." By all means have your fun on other posts.
I see your point, but people suggesting alternatives to your initial query could be more beneficial than you seem to realize. Just because you didn't care for any alternative suggestions doesn't mean the responses weren't valid...although I agree the responses to questions should be polite.
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby giblet » Wed May 28, 2014 8:52 pm

I agree with the OP. I think direct questions asking for information should be responded to with information, especially in the first few posts. Otherwise the thread disintegrates and the person that asks the question disappears. Posts that invite discussion are different, of course.
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby Bitte_Kein_Lexus » Wed May 28, 2014 9:10 pm

giblet wrote:I agree with the OP. I think direct questions asking for information should be responded to with information, especially in the first few posts. Otherwise the thread disintegrates and the person that asks the question disappears. Posts that invite discussion are different, of course.
Yep, also agree. It's pretty annoying when you have a simple (or not) question and then people post some inane shit or start trolling the OP. Either answer it or don't. If you know what you're talking about, great! It should be easy to answer the question. If you think you do, help out but say that you're not 100% sure, and at least you can try to direct them in the right direction r to someone who might know. If you have no clue and feel like poking fun, choose a different thread. A joke here and there is fine, but when every Q/A thread gets derailed by jokes and banter, it's a bit lame. Once the question has been answered of course, feel free to chime in with whatever. I don't mean to sound strict as I also post stupid one-liners or unhelpful stuff, but I tend to try to keep it to a minimum in Q&A threads. If the OP gets no replies then helping out by a bump is cool though.
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby EdinWigan » Thu May 29, 2014 4:55 am

taabarang wrote:I hope that readers will distinguish between posts that are requesting information that is necessary to get on with things and those outlandish ones which invite sniping. I remember when: (on that other forum)

1) I wanted to buy a gas fueled oven and received a thesis on why I should use electricity instead. In spite of the fact that I have none.

2) I wanted the name of a bank that would accept US Treasury Dept. checks for retirement and that post was bombarded with tirades against checks which are old fashioned in this age of electronic direct deposit. Even though direct deposit is outlawed in the US to Cambodia. Plus even more tirades by those who knew that my embassy must know(they didn't and don't) and I should ask, as if I hadn't already.

So please, if you don't have an answer, rider pass by. People with questions are probably not as insipidly stupid as you think. They do not need your frivolous wit or irrelevant tirades. If that can be accomplished on this forum it will do wonders for those who dare an honest question as compared to the childish manner those issues were dealt with on that "other forum." By all means have your fun on other posts.
I could not agree or support this post more +1
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby UKJ » Thu May 29, 2014 5:00 am

General Mackevili wrote:
taabarang wrote:
So please, if you don't have an answer, rider pass by. People with questions are probably not as insipidly stupid as you think. They do not need your frivolous wit or irrelevant tirades.
I agree, 100%.

That's one of the main reasons we "protect" all users with less than 30 posts. Of course that's null if they start fucking around with the other members before they get to 30.

And speaking of the other board (i swear to the Gods I'm also trying to stop bringing them up, LoL)..... It comes as no shock to anyone that I was often guilty of the EXACT same scenarios you just described. I'll freely admit that.

I never had any vested interest in that site, but even when partaking, I was shocked that the power that be would allow it.

I kind of think of it like driving here vs driving in the States:

When I drive in Cambodia, fuck it, I drive on the sidewalks, go 2 kilometres on the left hand side of the road because I have a left hand turn coming up, etc.

And when I'm in the States I drive very well and follow all the rules. I even drink and drive with cans instead of bottles, so in case some idiot causes a wreck, there won't be broken glass all over the place.

But if asked which one I thought a better system, I'd vote for the West! (Again, just kind of the idea, not an exact parable or nothing.)

I also didn't like how it was ok sometimes for some people, and some people got banned over an obvious joke.


And I obviously have skin that's thicker than an elephant's, but even when I join new forums now it's nice to be able to get my feet wet before taking abuse by the regulars there.


OrangeDragon wrote:
...just some thoughts to consider

...when i used to post event threads on forums for dance music i loved it when 2 members would get into a completely unrelated argument in the thread, ...
Definitely good food for thought.

We also have to realize that many people don't see it that way, even though I agree I personally would have wanted the exact same thing.

I had a moving sale on the other forum, and probably 70% of the posts were just taking the piss.

I loved it! Kept me at the top!

But I know that some would be furious (and not just the overly sensitive)! They would have lost their cool, come on there and cursed everyone out, left and never to be seen again, and tell everyone that ever brought that place up in conversation would say, "fuck that place! ! Bunch of assclowns!"

So while yes, it's fun to be on the laughing side or to have thicker skin than most, we have to remember that most normal people that we want on here are not going to appreciate it.

After 30 posts, we should have a little bit of an idea of how people like to be talked to as well.

I also agree it's a fine line. That's why somebody (The Dragon and I) need to be the ones to decide sometimes.

People jumped on Telesales on his first post over here and gave him a shit load of negative Karma. I didn't make a big deal about it. I know he has thick skin. He also snapped right back at them, LoL.

If it had been a stranger and got that kind of welcome and I would taken a different approach completely.

So 30 posts gives us all a chance to let us know what "fair" is to you and your tone, and let's you know how others interact with people as well.

Treating people "fair" and treating people the "exact same" isn't always fair, or the same thing. (I swear that makes perfect sense, I just don't know how else to word it.)



How many times have we seen a "Hi everyone! I'm Mike from Pattaya and I was thinking of moving to Cambodia and I had a couple of questi......"

And before they can finish it's turned to, "Fuck you, Pattaya trash! We don't need you here, you dirty wife-beater-wearing muthafu....."

That should never ever happen.

If that's the kind of threads you like, well you're in luck! There already happens to be a site around here just for you, LoL...


And again, no, we are not trying to create CPN 2.0 either. I think the main thing we've been saying from the beginning is "less negativity. " That kind of sums it all up nicely.



We also just added a "Asinine Arena" section at the bottom of CEO. If you want to start a thread about finding a cat hair in your soup at a dog restaurant, go right ahead.

We were starting to get some pretty off the wall threads that I felt were going to start to get the General Chatter forum a little cluttered up. Now there is a place for off the wall threads that many of us enjoy (including me), yet twice as many roll there eyes at when they see.

We also hate deleting or locking threads, so that's maybe a good place to throw them.

So, I feel pretty strongly about the fact that the old forum was getting pretty nasty, and let's be honest, if Cambod thinks a place is "starting" to get nasty, it was probably beyond nastiness 6 months prior, LoL.

Oops, did I just out myself? :twisted:
Sounds good. There is need for a friendly forum.

I could never understand why Pattaya expats got such a hard time. Maybe jealousy, as they are usually retired.
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby FreeSocrates! » Thu May 29, 2014 6:07 am

I also wish for this forum that our privacy be protected.

I used to go on this forum called K440, but I heard they were publishing peoples 'Private Messages' so I've basically stopped going there... I'm actually surprised that PM's aren't encrypted...

I think with the things that the NSA is doing now, I'm much more weary about these issues.
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby Milord » Thu May 29, 2014 7:05 am

It would be nice to see more news from Thailand. Their boards are self censoring chat and opinion of the Coup, afraid (rightly so) of being shut down. Give them a voice over here.
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby FreeSocrates! » Thu May 29, 2014 7:22 am

^That's a great idea.
The cedar roasted asparagus has good chew. I don't know how to enjoy it, so I'll Instagram it instead.
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby Soi Dog » Thu May 29, 2014 7:29 am

FreeSocrates! wrote:^That's a great idea.
Yes, that is a solid idea. The other Cambodia forum gets nearly 40% of its page hits from Thailand. Let welcome the Thailand expats here without the boringly predictable "wife beater wearing pantsniffers" remarks. A new Thailand section is worth a try.
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Re: What I wish for on this forum

Postby General Mackevili » Thu May 29, 2014 7:36 am

FreeSocrates! wrote:I also wish for this forum that our privacy be protected.
Yep, 100%.

That is something that is non-negotiable. Even if we are not fond of members or whatever, we will never ever out members and do our absolute best to enforce that across the board, without exception.

As you have seen, we even go as far as protecting the privacy of members from other boards.

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